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The King of the Monsters

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:The King of the Monsters/Archive 2 on 2019-04-29.

uhh i have a question

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BaragonwaSaikoda (talkcontribs)

Where (or maybe even, how) did you get the screenshots of King Kong's cameo in Adventure! Godzilland 2 from?


i'm asking this because... well, the show is like 97% lost media and it would be pretty amazing if another episode was found. just wondering (because you may have either got it from somebody else or you actually have the episode yourself)

sorry if you're inactive btw

Reception sections on movies

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G&G-Fan (talkcontribs)

The reception sections for most Godzilla movies are stubs and quite empty, so I'm curious if there's any idea as to what's to be done with them. It'd be rather difficult to attempt to get a representative unbiased sample of the opinions of the fanbase. Would it just stick to critic reviews? I'm just curious, I don't think I'm qualified to do it myself.

Gojiraboy (talkcontribs)

Objective choice of words, any tone as long as there is humility to it, positive vs negative, etc.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I overhauled the Godzilla vs. Hedorah Reception ages ago as a model. It's a mixture of professional reviews from around the time of the film's release, fan reviews (some of them from books), and G-Fan polling. Wikipedia's approach doesn't seem right for a fan wiki.

Stats on Kong, MG, etc

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KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Why were they deleted off the infoboxes? Pretty sure they’re official.

GojiTheKing2019 (talkcontribs)

Idk maybe need actual photo?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

They are official. But may be because they need high res scans?

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

The booklet from which these stats come is not remotely a reliable source. While the statue it came with may be officially licensed, the information within it is wildly inconsistent and unreliable, and thus not acceptable for an infobox.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Example?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

That makes little to no sense to totally disregard it because of inconsistancies (which have been addressed before on various other pages). if it came with a piece of official merch then it should be treated as such, other pieces of merch have been used as sources for other things to my knowledge.

Official inconsistancies still should be noted elsewhere on the page.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix reply button pls

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Exactly.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

I believe it's official because of that King Ghidorah render on his page, because I never saw that render in any of the media (at least, not in full body)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

It was already stated it came with official merch, the Inconsistent info should not be disegarded entirely due to this and should be mentioned somewhere on those pages.

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

I don't know, it seems like a shoehorn to me - relying on some random booklet for important character stats?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix the reply button

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

Best to ask about technical site problems elsewhere.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

I did not mean to indicate that we will pretend this booklet does not exist whatsoever, but the most we will is maybe include notes stating that a dubiously canon booklet gives alternate stats. The figure may have been licensed, but that does not mean Toho or Legendary signed off on or even looked at the accompanying booklet. The booklet is inconsistent with previous stats and seems to have completely invented several of them, and even includes several pieces of fan art. For example the stats it gives for MUTO Prime are suspiciously similar to the ones previously invented for it by Toho Kingdom's fan made KWC.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Its been well established by now that the MonsterVerse as of GvK has plagerized fan-art, (actually they stole fanart in birth of kong as well) the usage of fan-art has no bearing on not mentioning it its still very much accompanied with an offical piece of merch.

The opening of GvK itself gave godzilla stats that was stolen from a dubious fan made thing if i recall.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Reply button still busted

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Yes, but the difference is that the dubious stats in GvK actually appeared in the movie, and even then we do not include them in the actual infobox but only in notes. These stats were pulled out of thin air for this merchandise specifically, and unless they reappear in something else official I don't hold them as particularly compelling.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im not against mentioning them in notes as they should be mentioned somewhere, But what about various other instances where Merch is used as a cite to back things up though.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

In other instances like that the merch in question is usually more reliable or backed up by existing material.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

How about now?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

Then, should this mean that we’re able to include these with no trouble now?

MonsterverseTitan (talkcontribs)

Do you have the link to where you got this screenshot from?

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)
KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

I know it's been a year, but can we have a follow-up to this please?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's a rickety source for sure, but I do think it's time to at least acknowledge it on the relevant pages.

To refresh everyone's memory, the photos of the booklet containing this information: https://www.instagram.com/p/CiT8lXvMs7B/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D.

And the Monsterverse figures under discussion:

  • MUTO Prime weighing 135,000 tons (matching estimate given by Drew Edward Johnson) and standing 350 feet tall (no precedent)
  • Godzilla standing 394 feet tall in King of the Monsters/Godzilla vs. Kong (other sources say 393 feet)
  • Burning Godzilla having a body temperature of over 1,500 degrees Celsius (no precedent)
  • King Ghidorah having a wingspan of 1,500 feet (given as 800 feet in The Art of Godzilla: King of the Monsters)
  • Kong weighing "90,63" tons in Godzilla vs. Kong (no precedent)
  • Mechagodzilla weighing "605,45" tons (no precedent)

The post claims that the GvK novelization gives the same weight stat for Kong (presumably written correctly), but I don't recall that.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

I think the same weight is referring to how the carrier Kong is standing on can carry upwards to "100,000 tons" or something like that

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Btw, Calleri. HFTT went REALLY far to claim these sources are from Legendary, going as far as to contact the representative to confirm for sure. Shouldn't they now actively replace or take the place of certain stats that we never found about?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Offered my input on the relevant pages. I don't think we should run with the Kong and Mechagodzilla weights as the primary stats because of the typos. Also, I don't know you personally, so please use my username in communications here. That's not even how my last name is spelled.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Apologies ABB

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

About Godzilla Voxel Wars

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Legendary Godzilla 95 (talkcontribs)

Hi. I have a question about "Godzilla Voxel Wars".

Is the game a representation of a story that actually happened? I mean, I ask that because there are all those documents and files with information about the war against the Fungoids, and I have curiosity about this.

Gyaos sandbox

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

ok so uh...whhhy did you like remove a huge chunk of the sandbox instead of just building off of it?


i didn't really edit the page I'm just confused and curious as to why exactly it was neutered`

"Gojira" (1954) Stop-motion . . . ?

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Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

While watching Gojira (1954), I noticed that there were two scenes that contained what looked like stop-motion. I knew that stop-motion had been considered for the film, but was ultimately scrapped in favor of suit-mation. I had made a comment on the movie's page, and I was told to contact a moderator about it. If you want, here's the timestamps:

58:28 (one of the fire trucks swerving and falling on its side)

1:03:58 (Godzilla swinging his tail into a building)

I'm simply wondering what to make of it. Anything helps!

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I am currently editing Gyaos' incarnations page, and I was wondering: should the Gyaos from the 2015 short get their own incarnation? Or do they not have enough information, and need to be sent to the list of minor mosters or just the general Incarnations page?

Les (talkcontribs)

We have a policy against making pages for short film incarnations. That version can be covered on the main Gyaos page.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Thank you! That's what I figured, I just wanted to be sure.

question about the SP Rodan infobox pic?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

wait so why was that undone? last time i checked i didn't think infoboxes displayed forms based on chronological order, Destoroyahs main infobox image being displayed isn't his Micro form and Shin Gojis isn't the first form so why exactly was it changed back to the first form Rodan?

the second forms had much more screen-time overall than the first form which would make them the most prominent form featured and going by how Destoroyah and Shins infoboxes go shouldn't that be the main image displayed?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Maybe image quality? I am also curious about why you made that edit KOTM

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Perfect Destoroyah and 4th Form Shin Godzilla are objectively the most prominent forms, not based on screentime but simply marketing and how often they appear in other media and merchandise. SP Rodan is almost entirely represented by the 1st form in marketing for the show and merchandise, with the only real prominent merchandise of the 2nd form being the S.H. MonsterArts figure. I'm not saying 1st form is objectively more prominent than the 2nd form, but I think it's close enough that it makes the most sense to simply go in chronological order in this instance.

MechZilla74 (talkcontribs)

Is there a way to see who voted on polls? I wanna make sure that people aren't rigging the votes for my Godzilla Hall of Fame event.

Hey there, may I ask a question?

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Plantcell (talkcontribs)

I've been curious on the history of Wikizilla, and I was looking into the split with the fandom site (the pages on Wikizilla and Gojipedia don't cover it). I was wondering if a few people who were actually there would tell me what went down. I spoke to a few people on Gojipedia, but I wanna hear both site's stories. Thanks again, Plantcell