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Allosaurus (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Giant Monsters Attack Japan! can get a page, but as a scrapped project; it's been six years since anything resembling an update. Here's the script: https://www.scribd.com/document/398091753/Giant-Monsters-Attack-Japan-J-F-Lawton-1

As best as I can tell, we don't have a single Chinese movie on this site, unless you count The Mighty Peking Man and the ones co-produced by Tencent. I peeked at the ending of Sand Python Siege on YouTube and it doesn't look like it's going to change that. The poster showing kaiju-sized snakes wrapped around skyscrapers as helicopters rain down missiles is deceptive.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Okay, thanks!

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

I have a question. Why Wikizilla covers Cloverfield franchise? It has it's own wiki, and all movies in the franchise aren't made in the kaiju style. The first movie is made in the "found footage" style, not in the kaiju genre, the second and the third aren't even monster movies. I watched It Came from Beneath the Sea several days ago, and it follows the kaiju genre way more, than Cloverfield. I don't say we should cover It Came from Beneath the Sea or we should delete Cloverfield pages, but I just asked.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Because the Cloverfield movies are manageable. The Pacific Rim franchise, for instance, has dozens of giant characters in it, and the Ultra Series even more. That being said, our pages on the original Cloverfield still need some serious work.

Genre's a slippery thing. The site exclusively calls Japanese films "kaiju films" to avoid endless arguments over what is and isn't a kaiju. Personally, I would consider Cloverfield a kaiju movie even though it's American because of Clover's size, resilience, and unusual appearance. The way in which the story is presented is irrelevant. I'm less inclined to view American giant-animal movies the same way, and there are far too many of them for us to possibly cover.

As for the Cloverfield follow-ups, both have certainly have giant monsters in them, even if they're not the main attractions, and don't require a serious number of subpages.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I wish that the criteria for introducing new movies to this site weren't so convoluted, but I see only two other options, and I don't like either of them.

  • We allow a page for every movie about monsters that are bigger than, say, a T-Rex, and our tiny staff never finishes them.
  • We tighten the criteria and delete a whole bunch of pages.

Still, at this point we probably should make a special page for approved movies that don't have pages yet, as well as movies that have been rejected, with reasons laid out for each.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Okay, but why we cannot cover American giant monster movies with special effects by Ray Harrishausen and Willis O'Brien, if we still can have Monsters (2010) article, because it was directed by Gareth Edwards? I don't say we should cover all of them, only which follow kaiju genre. It Came from Beneath the Sea has way more kaiju atmosphere than Mega Shark movies.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

As I remember this wiki was only about Godzilla at first, but was extended and include movies, which cannot have their own wikis. However, many movies can't be here. I like the first option, but the only one thing I can do is just propose some changes.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I've come around on The Lost World, and you might as well throw in The Black Scorpion too. If we're to give King Kong the same standing as Godzilla and Gamera on this site, then the other monsters animated by the man who first brought him to life should be covered. Harryhausen not so much - he made far more monster movies, and only two of them have any connection to the core characters this wiki is about.

As for It Came from Beneath the Sea and the Mega Shark movies, well, our definitions of "kaiju atmosphere" clearly differ. For what it's worth, I doubt I would have pushed for Mega Shark if the later entries didn't have giant robots in them. Mega Piranha also has kaiju-sized animals and I don't want that here... even though it would be fun to talk about the Nerf guns The Asylum used as props.

RexGoji (talkcontribs)

What kind of monster movies deserve to be covered?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Short answer: Godzilla movies, Gamera movies, King Kong movies, Toho monster movies, and movies with clear connections to them.

Long answer: Stay tuned for the special page I mentioned above.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the long and detailed answer. Also I think this special page is a good idea. Thanks again.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i'm back after three days away so what did i mis?

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Mr. Eiga: Sorry, I forgot to answer, you didn't miss nothing special.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

why won't les let me make a Luigi Cozzi page when theres a John Beck page?