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Roar identification for Singular Point Rodan, Shin Godzilla, etc.

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Summary by Astounding Beyond Belief

This topic has branched off so many times it's becoming near impossible to follow. Time to start fresh.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im sorry to any mods that see this but


Stop Adding in False information and or Information with no evidence about monster roars on pages

and posting videos without any timestamps (like in baragons case) isnt proof

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

@Les

Sorry i should of alerted you first


its just that no one seemed to address this issue and i tried telling him before not too

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Stop


Adding


False


Information

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

im Not adding false information,you are Just antagonizing me for little reason. Besides you probably dont even bother to check if im lying or not. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pysmtm7PSPg the original shin Godzilla roar is around the 2:33 mark.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Thats unsourced and doesnt provide proof at all


You also in the past claimed the cloverfield monster invented inhailing sounds so

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I simply meant that they might have used this specific inhale,but they could have easily modified so much that its barely recognizable

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

It sounded nothing alike inhailing isnt a unique concept

To claim they are the same sound despite not sounding remotely similar is a stretch as long as clovers arms.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

And considering that they used Sharptooth sounds for the Rodan that battled Jet Jaguar and apperently Rexy sounds for Anguirus and Sharktopus sounds for Salunga

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

You cant just claim these things without proof.


We have proof for anguirus simply because its recognizable

Frank welker sounds are considered stock sound effects

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

What Frank Welker sounds are you referring to? The ones used for Obsidius?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

No sharptooths noises are frank welkers

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

But what Sounds do you mean?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I literally said sharptooth was frank welker

The one you claimed rodan was

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
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Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I definitely hear the old Universal roar, but not the others.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The first one was lowered in pitch. Regarding the Second one:you need to listen very,very closely. Its very faint and obstructed by the loud music and Goro ranting.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Please start using the timestamp link option instead of listing where

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Timestamps are all provided above - I didn't have a problem finding where they're supposed to be, I just didn't hear matching roars.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I do hear the "Bowser" sound its mixed in with the other sound however

once im on PC i will get the exact moment where i hear it and will compare the two


Is there a way to upload files into chat logs like this?

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

|roar =

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Here is the first one as it appears in Singular Point

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

The code used on our pages works the same way here.

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I ment like direct timestamp links.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That doesn't seem necessary.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Another question: How do you post downloadable files in threads?I only know how to link Websites.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Stock sound effects are the absolute worst to write about because it's so hard to determine where they originally came from, but a phrase like "This sound effect/roar was also used by [character] in [film]" can be helpful.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The Millenium Godzillas, especially KiryuGoji, are probably the worst when it comes to stock noises.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mcP2pzRd140 The sound used for Shin Godzillas smoke breath is the same sound effect used for the Heisei Godzilla's atomic breath in Godzilla vs Mothra when he is underwater while fighting battra larva

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

You outright removed the fact his beam used destoroyah sound effects

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The Sound for Shin Godzillas purple beam is reused from the Heisei Godzillas atomic breath from Godzilla vs Mothra,specifically when he shoots Battra with it after biting him in the Neck before Mothra and Battra carry him to the Sea.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UJWewVW4Ih4

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

It sounds similar but im not sure if its exact


Destoroyahs beam sounds much closer

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

i also found this video here some Time ago

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The uploader states in the comments which sounds were used,but i dont know if he is right or not

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

You should be verifying that information on your own - and when making claims, the easiest way for others to check your work is to provide timestamps for sound effects in the movies themselves. In my experience, listening to roar compilations is mind-numbing.

I agree that Destoroyah's ray sounds more like the atomic breath sound effect in Shin Godzilla (although it's possible that the Destoroyah effect was derived from the Godzilla vs. Mothra atomic breath sound effect, or made in a similar fashion).

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

When Godzilla initially releases his breath isnt it another beam sound effect that previous Godzillas made?


Im talking about when it first ignites

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Yes, although I didn't realize that was in dispute.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I forgot which one it was

Was it Heisei?


It wasnt in dispute it was never on the page infact

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

A very similar sound is ocassionaly used in Godzilla vs Mothra,like the Underwater battle between Godzilla and Battra Larva

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I took "while his thermal flame attack utilizes the Showa Godzilla's atomic breath sound effect" to be the same thing you were talking about.

I'm pretty much the worst person to ask - sound effect identification is very frustrating for me unless it's super obvious.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

While on this topic i been meaning to say one of the roars the alien in cloverfield lane is indeed a slightly altered clover sound


Ive just been forgeting to mention it.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Timestamps?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I posted about it on an old thread but i found it through a toku society

Video that compiled the clover franchise sounds

I cant timestamp the clips atm due to my mouse on my PC being busted and idk if mobile works but i will find the thread

I also checked and the alien ship does emit it but i dont recall when.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i listened to toku societys roar videos

Nothing in there sounds like that

This is also unrelated to what i was talking about here.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

That just links to the front page

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

The start of both of them sounds similar but the rest of both sounds are different so its hard to say for certain and 100 percent confidence its the same

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I forgot to mention that Shrek 2 uses a modified version of the stock roar and it sounds closer to the Clover Sound

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

This doesnt really sound anything like Clover.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Why was this added to the page?


They sound remotely nothing alike at all.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Not sure if thats relevant

But i checked the page and it mentions ot was used for KOTM Rodan as well?

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The pages for the 98 film and Kotm also claim that the inhale sound from Kirby is used

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

No our pages dont? ? ?


But if you mean this sound effect wiki


Im not sure if its this reliable

And i think pointing out every single use of a sound is a bit overly extensive

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Yup,im referring to that one

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i..what?


I dont understand what you are reffering too? ? ?

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Im reffering to The Sound effect wiki

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im pretty good at it so i should check myself

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I think the only reliable roar compilation maker is Bumuman. He doesn't just rip 3 or 4 sound effects from random cds and repeats them for 3 minutes like most people do with Ebirahs sounds, he includes every sound that the monster ever.He even recreates some of them on his own.And if It doesnt have every Sound,he releases extra roar packs that include them.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Recreations are not what we seek and are not reliable

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Yeah, uploaders mixing in their own inventions are another reason I don't really like roar compilations as proof.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

in regards to Gamedestoryahs latest edit

listing every example of a certain sound effect being used is Unnecessarily extensive .

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

You said that on the edit, yes; no need to repeat it here. I agree, though that was far from a comprehensive list.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Now theres a dispute over 4th form Shins current roar saying he never does them

Again

We need Proof please

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Im reffering to the Audiofile on the Side.Shin Godzilla never used an Echoey version of these Roars.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

its still the same roar though??

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Shin does use the First one,but it doesn't have that echo effect.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I dont see an issue then if it has an echo


That feels very nitpicky.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's not. The roars on the pages should sound exactly the way they do in the movies/shows.

The two of you need to take a break from arguing about sound effects for a bit.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I wasnt trying to argue


OH if thats the case then clovers should be changed he never does that really long roar in the movie itself that was only in promo material.


Also i cant get the Exact sound singular point manda makes because audacity isnt that good at removing excess noises and every time it does the kong/ceaser sound there always excess noise

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It won't always be possible to get a clean roar.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

If i recall someone was able to isolate the titan sounds from Kotm using sony vegas somehow it was also toku i think


is there any other programs that can be useful for such that doesnt cost $$$

Because audacity simply isnt that good for it

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

No idea, sorry.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I got a new mouse so i should be able to show the clover/alien sound comparision soon of you didnt see that thread i posted here yet.


Along with the "Bowser" sound SP rodan makes.