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Editing-warring over roars

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Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Disagreements over whether sounds effects come from prior films have been fairly common on this site, but repeatedly trying to edit a page over objections is not the way to win an argument. I think that generally if there's debate over matching sounds even when all parties have listened to the same clips, we should err on the side of caution and leave the information out of the page.

I also don't think identifying single instances of reused sound effects should be a priority for these sections. Background on the sound design process for each monster would probably be of greater interest to our readers. I imagine that information exists somewhere for Clover - interviews with the sound team would be the place to start, perhaps the film's special features too.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i hope im not bothering adding to this but i want to give some context.


the main issue was he was insisting that clover reused sounds from the giant gingerbread man from Shrek 2 and gave "evidence" for it but the evidence he gave sounded nothing remotely in common with any noise clover made i myself checked by slowing it down and speeding it up

it still sounded nothing alike.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'm aware.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Seeing his last edit on MV Kongs page I dont think he listened at all.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Here is the same Elephant roar pitched-up

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

You totally missed the point or willfully ignored what the admin was trying to say.


A random YT video Is irrelevant and franky its getting absurd to list literal every specific detail to the point its cluttered which we dont want

Frankly i and im pretty sure others are becoming very annoyed over this.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I am far more annoyed by the ridiculous intensity of these topics. We're talking about monster sound effects, not Roe v. Wade. Your rhetoric's overheated; cut it out.

I don't think the audio clips here are completely conclusive, but if Erik Aadahl said in an interview that he modified elephant sounds for some of Kong's roars, that would be the exact sort of information I said I was looking for. What a monster's roar is derived from is not absurd detail. The problem is the difficulty of verifying what it is derived from by ourselves.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

But this video from which the roar originated in the first place.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

But i will stop trying to be too specific. Now leave me alone.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

In the absence of information on the page, you look for something random, like a TV show or movie, and say that this monster roars when it does not. To me, that's childish. Our purpose is to present information, not to be a zoo where animals do not think or hear. Please stop.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

Just leave me alone already.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Then stop vandalizing pages by removing citations that are needed and resorting to "Dude trust me" when you cannot provide proof or citations to the things you add.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Would you mind telling us why you do this?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

you really should just let the staff handle this.

The only reason i commented reviving this thread was to notify ABB that he removed citations that needed to be added.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I think the claims GameDestroyah2008 made about the sources of Baragon and KK76 roars are specific enough to be investigated. If neither of you did that before reverting the edits/making strange zoo analogies, you're really not helping. But a [citation needed] should almost never be removed if it isn't replaced with a citation.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

due to the Mongo thing i simply have a hard time trusting him

i really should have went and checked myself though you are right.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I removed the „citation needed" thing, because i removed the things to which they were referring(King Ghidorah possibly using slowed-down lion bellows for his growls,Vastatosaurus Rex roars being used thrice).

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

But we need proof that he made V rex sounds


i cant confirm it because i don't want to go back to such an awful film just to find a sound effect


i do recall however one noise he made was apparently taken from a creaking metal door from X2 which Mike also worked on

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I wasnt the Person who added that in the first place,but i did find the exact sounds that they used

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

then can you link the video here?

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The Offscreen-roar that the V-Rex makes at 0:50 of the footage is part of the growl one of the heads makes after awakening from his icy prison: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlli6kEEBM0 Its at the 2:13 mark

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

The roar the V-Rex makes at 0:55 while destroying the bridge, is part of the roar Ghidorah makes at the 2:20 mark of the video that i linked above

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

They dont sound anything alike

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

OK yeah i hear the falling over sound is absolutely the same sound

we should probably specify its when he gets knocked over by godzillas beam.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I agree through that i took it too far with the entire clover/mongo thing.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

And now he is removing citation needed from pages and added the dino crisis thing back to baragon without citations


i really didnt want this thread to be revived hoping it was over but.


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This must be annoying for ABB and i dont wish for that.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

@GameDestroyah2008

Is the any reason you keep refusing to add Citations with whatever claims you keep making you once again made a claim about a roar being used (This time anime ghidorah) but provided no citation ( proof) at all.


Also please stop raw linking on pages thats not how links are put into pages

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

once again

that is not how links are added to pages

nor is that how citations are linked


too tired atm to explain