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Missing Toho kaiju film

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

I've got a Toho kaiju film that should be put in here: The Phoenix (1978).

If anyone wants more info, Toho Kingdom has an article on it in their Movies section.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Thats not a kaiju film.

Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Okay. I was under the impression that the Phoenix (which, surprisingly, was an anime creature in an otherwise live action film, IIRC) could be considered a kaiju, since it is literaly, a "strange beast" - which, I guess, is what "kaiju" means.

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

Actually, the Phoenix is more like Kaibutsu (Strange Creature) than Kaijū. Kaibutsu is the Japanese umbrella term for monster, while Kaijū encompass certain kind of Monsters.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Information on this movie online is pretty lacking (Toho Kingdom's page on the Phoenix itself has been empty for as long as I can remember), which does not point to it being super relevant to us. We can't hope to cover every movie by the major Japanese studios that have some sort of monster in them, and this Phoenix appears to be tiny. But somebody should probably watch it and report back.

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

I could try to work on the page sometime, I am familiar to the film. I just need to muster the motivation to write ✍️

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

I would consider any film that is mentioned in a Godzilla relevant book to be relevant to this Wiki. But that doesn’t always equal to manpower. But I could try to work out some of those pages when I can.

Les (talkcontribs)

We're currently in the midst of deliberating on what non-Godzilla Toho films should be fair game. The way it's going, I don't think The Phoenix will count.

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

Oh, I see, but Reiko still counts? So not every film included in Godzilla relevant books count on this wiki?

Les (talkcontribs)

Reiko would probably fall outside the scope if we move forward with the current rules we're thinking of.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im concerned about this honestly

Specifically about Cloverfield and Rampage

Im aware they are not Toho Films but the respective Wikis they are on dont do a good job covering these films or monsters at all

And i feel many of us have grown use to them being here and dont want to see them go along with some other non toho/kadokawa japanese kaiju films here and foreign films.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I dont want any kaiju or kaijin films removed.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I error

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Why is "But my monster size" even an arguement anymore we got tons of Toho/Kadokawa/Daiei films where the monsters are not even giant (or in tohos case no monsters at all)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
BoopN00dle (talkcontribs)

I remember someone said that an old article by toho said it was in the showa continuity of Godzilla films, but I don't remember who said that.

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

Are you sure didn’t mean the Godzilla canon? Canon and Continuity are very different, but often confused.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's a jidaigeki, so that's very unlikely

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Wow! When I suggested this film, I didn't know that this would happen. I'd like to see how this'll turn out.

One question: the Toho Kingdom article said that The Phoenix was released in the U.S. in 1979 by Toho International. Did it get a very wide release in this country or not?

Mahayana-60 (talkcontribs)

I’m from Taiwan, and was born after 1979, I don’t know.

Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Thanks anyway. Does anyone else know anything about this?