User talk:Les

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Les/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

Hi, I noticed that you posted a comment in the old Wikia Godzilla wiki stating that somebody posted two clips from Assault! Human!! on YouTube. However, they have since been deleted and a new video of the show has surfaced (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPb0FFRmwik&list=WL&index=128&t=0s). Were the contents of the old videos similar to the new one, and if not, do you know how I can watch the old clips without purchasing the DVD you mentioned in the Wikia comment?

Thanks.

Yes, these are the same clips though in lower quality.

Were the older clips also dubbed over with the theme song?

No. The clips are taken from a documentary-type film about a place in Japan, so IIRC there was simply a narrator talking.

Thanks.

Hey Les, I saw that you listed Godzilla vs. Megalon as one of your favorite Godzilla films. It's one of mine too.

Jet Jaguar was the star of the movie , i don't want people to be like Godzilla!,Godzilla! all the time , this movie should be the box

office bomb instead of being a letdown

I know right!

It'll be best to future proof other toho kaiju , than Godzilla himself.

vs. Megalon and Final Wars are definitely feel-good movies. I can put either one of them on and not be bored with them. As ridiculous as they are, I love them.

My thoughts exactly! Though, Final Wars is kinda slow at points.

Resolved! ...hopefully.

Lets see what was this time.

We are not an Evangelion wiki. Even if they were involved with Godzilla in the game, we don't need pictures of the characters standing.

Ok makes sense

Now are you gonna tell me why you are removing the Trivia from my page?

I'm pretty sure the reason is because it's not that important to be in trivia.

It is not "your page," first of all. We are entitled to make changes regardless of who published the page. Stating that 'this is the first time kaiju have appeared in this game' is obvious and does not need to be trivia. Most games Godzilla crosses over with are not inherently kaiju-related, but we don't put trivia on each of the pages stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared. We appreciate the contribution, but there's no reason to be so standoffish about improvements being made.

First at all ofcourse it belongs to the list of pages I've made in this wiki. But now I feel like if good people were creating pages for this wiki and then you take all the credit for it.

Second the trivia states that it was the first time a Kaiju appeared on SRW franchise, not just the videogame. But eh whatever........

Ok.

My dude, are you sure you understand the point of a wiki? Yes, you were the one who contributed the information and initially published the page. Great. That does not mean it belongs to you, nor that we are disallowed from editing it. How is removing a piece of trivia "tak[ing] all the credit for it"?

Something like Symphogear is a long-running franchise too, but it isn't inherently kaiju-related so stating a Godzilla crossover is the first time the franchise has featured kaiju should be fairly obvious. Magic: The Gathering is a massively popular franchise with countless expansions and they just recently had the first Godzilla crossover. Yet, we don't have trivia stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared because it's redundant and unnecessary. Arguing about this is pointless. I've told you my reasoning for why things were removed. Nobody is trying to steal glory away from you; no page belongs to any one person. This is a collaborative website where everyone is just as entitled to contribute as the next guy.

^^^

I think you didn't read well my comment, I said the page belongs to my list of pages created for the wiki, I didn't said it was mine mine.

Ok now I understand.

This is solved now.

I wanna ask you to please forgive me due to my prior behaviour. I didn't mean to be hostile or something, sorry.

I didn't mean that the pages were mine mine, I just said the page belongs to the my list of created pages for this wiki. Also sorry to say you were taking the credit from my work. I hope you can forgive me someday. I'll never repeat that again.

Thanks for read.

Quick question have yall already scanned the Godzilla dna book? I couldnt find anything by searching it up and yall dont seem to have a book section like the video games and movies.

If it’s not on User:Titanollante/Books then no.

Our decision is final and this conversation is getting nowhere. Take your temper tantrums elsewhere.

It's not only produced by Toho, but Godzilla 1954 is shown, the cultural festival marks the only other time Megalon's been in a film, is the only film in the Urusei Yatsura history to be done by Toho, dubbed in American, shown on National TV, and several other aspects. I think it deserves a page, Les.

It can be adequately covered on Godzilla in popular culture. There is no need to make pages for these individual movies.

But it was LITERALLY PRODUCED BY TOHO.

So? The My Hero Academia movie was distributed by Toho and has an officially licensed appearance of Godzilla's likeness, but we don't have a page for that. A handful of kaiju cameos does not automatically justify a page, regardless of who it was produced by. As I said, these moments can be just as easily, and more conveniently, compiled on the pop culture page.

That's DISTRIBUTED. Produced is literally Toho MAKING it.

Toho DISTRIBUTED the Gamera trilogy. Toho PRODUCED all the Godzilla films. See what I mean?

I'm aware of what produce means Lamango, thank you. The page does not need to exist. Your contribution is appreciated, but I'm asking that you not continue to edit war with us on this. You can add the information and images to Godzilla in popular culture.

This is BS, Les.

We literally have BS like MegaShark that has literally nothing to do with Toho on the site, but god forbid we add an anime that Toho produced, I guess. Guess we gotta make Dinocroc and Supergator part of this site too.

Adding those was not my decision, and personally I'm not fond of them being included either. But Toho having produced a film does not make it automatically within our scope. These cameos warrant a trivia footnote at best, not an entire page for a movie which is otherwise completely unrelated to anything. For the third time, it can go on the pop culture page. It is not being erased from existence, the information can be included, it just doesn't need to be that prominent.

And I say it warrants it's own page, as it's the only one of the four films to be produced by Toho, widely released, and critically acclaimed. Now if you'll excuse me, I'mma make the Whalewolf page and Pirahnaconda.

Akira Kurosawa's films are produced by Toho, widely released and critically acclaimed. Your point is?

And they'd be more relevant then Gorgo, Reptilicus, Sharknado, Sharktopus, Super Croc and everything else non-related to this wiki that's on here.

They may well be in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't mean a wiki about giant special effects monsters is going to start making pages about period dramas and war films. The site has a scope within which all content must fall to warrant inclusion. A random Toho anime that happens to have split-second Godzilla cameos does not need its own page. That decision is final.

"split second" literally 4 minutes of the film is them watching Godzilla 1954.

Also, most of the 'pop culture' page is lifted DIRECTLY from Toho Kingdom. I'd know, I'm the one who added most of those. :/

Yes, a large portion were plagiarized and we made that no secret. It was an old and messy page, but we've been working to convert it to a cleaner format. Many of the images have been replaced with higher quality versions and as far as I know all of the plagiarism has been rewritten. If there is any more you can spot, feel free to tell us.

All the Urusei Yatsura ones on there are DIRECTLY from me. Lmfao. I even have them in my folder still.

Please compare them with the Toho Kingdom page, I think you will find they are quite different. Plus nobody is stopping you from rewriting them further.

Also, Pokemon and DBZ get their own pages, but Urusei Yatsura gets booted off? Bias.

Also, you plagiarized four different sections from the film's Wikipedia page.

I'm still in the process of editing, Astounding.

"Split second cameos don't count"- Les Also Les https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon

Hey Les. Curious why you undid some of the contributions I did on Showa era? I added a ton of obscure kaiju/tokusatsu films that I thought would really add to the page. I'll admit I'm very new to editing on Wikizilla and I'll definitely do my best to follow any rules/guidelines that I might have broke, but I thought I'd reach out anyways since I thought the contributions I made were pretty good. Thanks :)

Hey, no worries, I appreciate your concern. Pages on this wiki are usually approved on a case-by-case basis, but generally if a tokusatsu film is not kaiju, supernatural or disaster related it will not be considered for inclusion. We also generally do not cover Toei content on the site, though The Magic Serpent is an exception due to other connections which make it more relevant. Films like Konto 55 will not be covered on the site, due to them not falling within our scope. Horror of the Wolf is technically related, but we've decided against its inclusion due to it essentially being an exploitation film with a horror veneer. As for The Rainbow Man, as far as I could tell it was simply a detective film with tokusatsu-esque nightmare sequences. Eiji Tsuburaya's involvement is speculative at best, as he isn't actually credited. I'm not too familiar with Daiei's other work, which is why I didn't delete them from the list altogether; they can still be found in the page code, but hidden. We'll have to look into them and determine if they're worthy of inclusion, as again, I'm not familiar enough with their content to say.

Hey, thanks for responding so quickly. I was under the assumption that any and every tokusatsu film that isn't Super Sentai/Kamen Rider/Henshin etc. could be covered on here, so thanks for clearing that up. I'll do my best to only add stuff that falls under the kaiju/supernatural/disaster perameters in the future. That being said, if Horror of the Wolf is just an exploitation film with a horror veneer, shouldn't Wolf Guy (1975) be taken off the page as well since half of that movie is basically just softcore p***? Lastly, I went back to look at the Daiei films you took off and I think at the very least these should be included. The rest I feel can be taken off.

Invisible Demon - Third Daiei Invisible Man film

The Demon of Mount Oe - Has a giant bull and giant spider (kaiju)

Wind Velocity 75 Meters/Typhoon Reporter - Disaster film

The Snow Woman - Supernatural

The Snake Girl and the Silver-Haired Witch - Supernatural

Yokai Monsters: Spook Warfare - Supernatural, kaijin, and kaiju (The other three Yokai Monsters films are included still)

The Invisible Swordsman - 4th Daiei Invisible Man film

Virus - Disaster film

It's not up to me but Virus doesn't really fit here either. The other disaster films on the site are either Toho productions or heavy on special effects content. Virus is neither.

I haven't seen Invisible Swordsman but apparently it's pretty similar to the Yokai movies Daiei was making around the same time. I think its Japanese Wikipedia page says it's informally considered the fourth Yokai Monsters movie, although I don't know just how informal that classification is.

I think that's a fair assessment for Virus. I haven't actually seen it, but every time I read up on it it's always called a "disaster" or apocalyptic film.

I had no clue about the Invisible Swordsman-Yokai Monsters connection. If it actually is similar to the original Yokai trilogy then I'm really interested to see it.

All three Yokai Monsters films will definitely be covered. I'm not familiar with the rest, unfortunately. Wolf Guy isn't on the page.

OK, Transparent Swordsman is listed under "related works" on the Japanese Yokai Series page (it does not have its own entry). This is a rough Google translation:

Transparent Swordsman (1970)

    A special effects jidaigeki (period drama) produced by the Yokai series staff (Director: Yoshiyuki Kuroda, Screenplay: Tetsuro Yoshida). Youkai also appear. Some books have points of view that add to the series because they have something in common. It is also the last work of Daiei's "Special Effects Period Drama" movie that continued from "Daimajin" (1966).

No references. But it's also worth noting that it was the original co-feature of Gamera vs. Jiger. That was the last of several Daiei double features pairing Daiei Tokyo and Daiei Kyoto films.

The Daiei films interest me, but many are hard to come by. Wind Velocity 75 Meters is intriguing as the special effects sequences are apparently quite spectacular, but there is very little information available. Any clue as to what it's like or where the alternate title Typhoon Reporter comes from? Did it ever receive American or international distribution?

I don't think it ever got American distribution. I don't even know where the "Typhoon Reporter" title comes from, but a lot of sites that talk about the film refer to it as such. It can be purchased with no subtitles on sinistercinema.com

A decent amount of the movies you mentioned are featured in the book Daiei Tokusatsu Movie Chronicle which I'm flipping through. There are a handful of pictures, at least. One I'd consider for inclusion is The Demon of Mount Oe.

Wasn't George Tew the one that said that Titan superspecies profiles provided ballpark estimates for species heights?

He was only referring to the MUTOs.

Nope, he was talking about all super species profiles by Monarch.

Show me where: https://twitter.com/georgectew/status/1249726952182648833

I just want to make sure with you that the Colossal Titan page is ready.

Is the page "Bringing Godzilla Down to Size" ready yet? It looks finished, but I just want to make sure.