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OH i forgot something about the KSI Template

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

it still calls the Spirit Tiger Icarus Tigris

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

also where exactly did Megabubalis skerryfer come from?

i tried looking it up online and i found nothing it just led back to the Sker Buffalos wikizilla page

Snarehunters and Hanks Ants

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

The Profile for the Snarehunter mentions they sing like birds so i think that's a major implication that they are supposed to be the same creature Hank Marlow was talking about

snarehunter


"Most explorers hear the ants before seeing them as their bird-like songs carry throughout the forest"

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

also im not sure if the profile itself got cut off at the end or if that was an error

Les (talkcontribs)

An implication for sure, but not confirmation. That said, we had been in touch with one of the game's staff members through development and he mentioned wanting to include the KSI ants, so we're gonna try to explore that avenue. Maybe we can get a word of confirmation.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

You guys have actual contact?


Im also curious about if there was any other monsters that were not in the screenshots.


I know some profiles where barely seen for older monsters like mire squid but i couldnt read the whole thing i was curious if new info was there.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

so do we got any proof that they are the same creature hank was talking about?

i saw you updated it on the page to include they are one in the same

Les (talkcontribs)

The Boy Who Cried Godzilla found a mention in one of his emails with the lead designer. He alluded to "the Singing Ants that are heard in the film but never seen" as being part of the story.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

BTW i tried to change the link to giant ants on the skull island template thing but i couldn't do it because its protected.

Les (talkcontribs)

Fixed!

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

actually do any of the other snarehunter forms and other new monsters have any artwork?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Les (talkcontribs)

That image from the website is most likely concept art. There is a finalized image in the PDF of a Valkyrie holding a deer and it resembles the one in the second image I uploaded. I think the main difference is with the antennae; Valkyries just have the tree branches, but Queens have pine needle-esque things at the ends.

I think the one standing on the ant hill is too small to be a Queen anyway. The campaign says the hills are 10 feet tall, so that ant is definitely not 130.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

They look more like the feather looking antennae that moths have than pime needles


But are there any pics of the other ants?


I see one without wings in the one pic.

Les (talkcontribs)

The two that the infobox images are cropped from and the one I mentioned with the deer are the only images of them. Currently trying to figure out how to keep transparency when extracting images from a PDF, because right now they have black backgrounds. Otherwise I'd have uploaded them.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I Probably could clean it up by hand.


I got paint.net

Gyaos's Incarnations

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Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I have looked through the Gyaos sandbox, and I think it is ready for approval. If not, what needs to be added? I would try to move the pages myself, but since they're main pages and I've yet to deal with portals, I don't want to screw something up.

G'85 Steve Martin page image edit warring

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Space Hunter M (talkcontribs)

We have a much better scan of G'85 now but apparently that's not good enough according to Zillaman98, lol.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i don't think one image change and a single undo is an edit war personally.

an edit war goes on much further and is a constant back and fourth like what was going on in the HIYA toys page in my opinion


the new image just looks really saturated and further away from the character.

Space Hunter M (talkcontribs)

That doesn't really make any sense...?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

the new image to me looks far more grainer and he looks red like a tomato it looks weird to me which is why i changed it.

Les (talkcontribs)

I think it looks better. The redness is probably not a grading issue, that’s just what the man looks like lol

Except it is the same situation as the Jinshin

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LindenHS (talkcontribs)

If the offspring are not then the parent isn’t.

And that’s the SKULLDEVIL bio saying they aren’t.

Les (talkcontribs)

When has it ever been said that an individual of a species can't ascend to Titan status? I feel like we're speaking a different language in these conversations.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

This is the species they are talking about here… and it’s confirmed by KDM who has asked about it and knew as well.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

But anyway I’m done 😂

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

this is just coming off as straight up harassment now.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

Naw just posting new information I knew about for a long time but couldn’t share at the time

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

no you keep bothering people and come off as being better than everyone else.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

Never said I was.

nor have I behaved like such, simply treating others as I’ve been treated.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Maybe you simply don't realize it, but you really do come off as condescending. Even small things like constantly putting an ellipsis after everything you say, to obsessing over something that still has yet to be confirmed and acting like you're triumphing in an argument in which you were always right.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

It’s confirmed.

You missed the first half of this involving a CANON game that has this.

Nothing anymore condescending then how they have been to me many many times.

and yes I am right thank you, I have been saying this and had this confirmed by creators involved in Legendary and by credible sources like KDM for a few years…

https://twitter.com/Driscoll23Jack/status/1653446659383099399

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

How many times must they repeat for reasons they cannot use a Journalist or leaker or whatever third party as a source and it needs to be firsthand from staff or the company directly (and publically)


you're condescending behavior doesnt do you any favors either

These are fictional movie monsters for goods sake.


Inb4 the game says...

The game still calls them a Medium titan or whatever im tired of literal months of this nonsense.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

A few months ago you said he was credible… also yes he is.

and the game uses that as a typing like DND not as what you think. Titan typing indicates area damage and power of attacks… it’s a game mechanic.


states right there that it’s not one… you are now arguing with the official word of Legendary.


but y’all do you, no point in staying here.

LindenHS (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

He is still a thirdhand source even if he is credible the site cannot use leak information or information that hasnt been put out by a firsthand source or major outlet.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Also i see you are taking screenshots of Keeri

Just to try to mock him on twitter for clout when he was just expressing his own view and didnt do anything wrong.


This is exactly why theres people who got an issue here.


Im sorry les if i lost my chill i just got so tired of this and couldnt take it anymore Especially since he is trying to mock and belittle one of the nicest members here i couldnt stand for it.

The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talkcontribs)

Buckaroo, you literally started a smear campaign against one of our site admins via lying by omission to make it look like he said a journalist was inherently unreliable, when he was telling you specifically that no-one, regardless of their reliability, can be taken at their word without documentation, which you seem to admit here that you could not provide at the time. Would this not imply that you were aware that you could not provide a valid source documentation for your argument, but insisted on it's veracity without it? You know that research cannot operate on a "he said X" basis. We can take those notions into account, but we are not in the business of promoting rumors as fact. And the fact of the matter is that when you made those claims, without Sources, they amounted to rumors. Bear in mind that while the person who gave you the information may well be a reliable source of information, but without the associated proof that you could not provide, it is a rumor nonetheless. Is this getting through to you?

I will keep it real with you. I am neither a fan of your attitude, nor your behavior. "They did it first" is not a valid justification for treating others poorly. If you want to add information here, by all means do, but it must be backed up with verifiable proof. Surely you understand that. My colleague attempted to convey this information to you before, and yet here we are. It is not my place to make personal judgements on you, but knowing you only from the behaviors you have displayed and their associated lack of decorum, I am inclined to concur with the above statements that you amount to little more than a troll. You hold yourself to a high standard, and yet come here to gloat about a problem you instigated. Who does that serve? Who is helped by this? Do you just derive joy from arguing online? There has to be more to your personality, and if you intend to continue editing here, or anywhere I encourage you to show it.Do the people in your offline life find your churlishness endearing? I doubt it. I'd like to imagine that you are a reasonable and likable person. You don't need to treat anyone, or this site as some kind of personal enemy. It is beneath most people, and I'd wager it is beneath you as well.

The skeptic in me suspects you may well try to deflect this with some half-quip or a joy emoji, or perhaps to take unflattering screenshots and insist on twitter that I am bullying you, or someone else. As an administrator, and as a human being, I have a duty to engage you in polite conversation regarding this, and I encourage you to prove me wrong. We can work together, if your pride will allow it. I do not engage in "fandom drama" but that is most of what I have seen from you. I know there is more to you than this, but once more I encourage you to show it. I will not tell you that some members here could not benefit from communications training, but if you are not willing to listen, then any cordiality is wasted. You, like everyone else in the world, are welcome to edit here, but if you make big claims like you have, you will need to be prepared to have documented citations from official sources. Does that make sense to you?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Thank you

LindenHS (talkcontribs)

Same book distinctly has Titanus for Kong and Camazotz so yes the Skulldevil is not a Titan

Les (talkcontribs)

I don't expect this conversation to go much further and frankly I don't want it to, but I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that the Snarehunter Queens are not given a "Titanus" name in the book either, but are explicitly and repeatedly called Titans during the campaign. Also worth noting that the lesser Snarehunters and Queens don't have the same classification—Cantus formica for the former and Cantus Silva Ant for the latter—despite one transforming into the other.

As an aside, the book stating "Titanus kong" and "Titanus camazotz" to be those characters' "cryptozoological classifications" seems to be a contradiction in and of itself. Up to this point, "classification" has been used for Titans and "cryptozoological classification" for generic superspecies. You can even see this difference side-by-side in the bios from Kingdom Kong, where Camazotz is "Classification: Titanus Camazotz" and Spirit Tiger is "Cryptozoological classification: Tigris Spiritus."

The fact of the matter is, this franchise's lore is confusing and inconsistent, and it is not as clear-cut as you want it to be. We all try to put the puzzle pieces together as best we can, but asserting things the way that you do is helpful to no-one.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I don't mean to dig this back up but an here's what the official synopsis for the upcoming apple tv series does say in regards to Mutos.


"Following the thunderous battle between Godzilla and the Titans that leveled San Francisco "


so yeah make of that as you will.

KunshuGoji (talkcontribs)

I know I'm uninvolved in this but I have to agree with Zillaman and The Boy here. Smearing people on twitter over this is absurd. I find the recent hits (that thread against ABB on Gojipedia that they should be ashamed of and now you against Les on twitter) equally undeserved and unwarranted. The admins on Wikizilla put in an incredible amount of time (and patience) into running this site and it shows with the amount of quality (see also: properly cited) information available here. I don't do much around here apart from observing but I have always respected and appreciated what the admins here have done for the community as a whole.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

its now randomly going after people who are not even staff now.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I am not known very well online and none of my "Keeri" accounts links up to anything personal. If people wish to listen to the delusions of a belligerent person after I tried to help them get their point across clearer, that's those folks' choice. Not even sure what the point of the war on the admins is.

Question about classifications?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Magma Turtle for example has the cryptozoological designation of Tortoisa Vulkana


but the Classification of Tetstudines Mineral and Sub Division of Igenous Reptilia

how can this be put in its infobox?

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Maybe subtitles with something saying that it's talking about classification, such as Classification: Tetstudines Mineral and Sub Division: Igneous Reptilia.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

also where would i put radius for the dream slime


we never had a situation where we have a radius stat

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

There's a field for "other stats"; the Godzilla (MonsterVerse) page uses it.

The first question is a much bigger one... I think at some point soon we should go through all the bios that have been released for MV monsters and try to untangle the various terminology used.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i already know about the classification section i was asking about the other stuff like Sub division and the second non cryptozoological classification

Category for amphibians

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Can i make a new category?

Comments Not Loading: Please Help

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Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

As far back as mid-April of this year, I have noticed that some pages did not load the comments. I have tried using the clock in the top-right of the page - I think it was called purging the cache? - as I have seen been suggested to other users in the past, but it never seems to work. Not entirely sure if you can help, but anything helps!

ShodaiMeesmothLarva (talkcontribs)

I have the same issue as well.

Les (talkcontribs)

Yeah, something broke with the most recent site update. Purging the cache used to work, but it isn’t right now. We are trying to find a solution, sorry!

Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

No problem, Les. Just wanted to make sure something wasn't messed up on my end. Whenever you can, send a reply when it's fixed!

ShodaiMeesmothLarva (talkcontribs)

Update: The comments section now appears for me in some pages.

Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

Same, looks like it got fixed. Thanks, Les, and anyone else who worked on fixing it!

The name "the Frankenstein Monster"

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Why did you remove the name "the Frankenstein Monster" from everything I put it in? It's a valid name which everyone uses and has used since the Universal film series, particularly House of Frankenstein (1944), which actually mentioned it within the film's dialogue.

Les (talkcontribs)

You are being blocked for a period of one month. You've been given more than enough chances to stop arbitrarily standardizing things without checking with anyone first. Refer back to the most recent warning, in which you were told you would be blocked the next time it happened. There have even been several other borderline instances of this since then that we gave you a break on, but by now it has simply gotten ridiculous.

"Frankenstein's monster" is far and away more common. There is no reason to change every mention of it to "the Frankenstein Monster" just because it was used in one movie. I believe we've even had this exact conversation with you before, but like with other things, you go right back to doing it after enough time has passed. We are all tired of having to wade through tens of your edits in the Recent Changes changing things that do not need to be changed or that you have already been told not to change. I implore you to take these warnings more seriously, as the next ban will be even longer.

Question on the term "the MUTO Prime" in Godzilla (MonsterVerse)

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Isn't it supposed to be "the MUTO Prime", similar to "the Queen MUTO", the latter of which is used in another part in this article?