User talk:The King of the Monsters

The King of the Monsters

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:The King of the Monsters/Archive 2 on 2019-04-29.

Isn't Megalon supposed to be a cyborg monster, just like Gigan is?

No, he is an organic creature. Anatomy photos and informational books show that his drills, while made of metal, are not cybernetic enhancements, but naturally-evolved body parts.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

I think "back on track" is meant here; I've never heard it said "back on task". Or should it say "back to his task"?

"Back on task" is a common phrase that refers to returning to one's task after a distraction. There's no reason to change it.

Thanks, honestly never heard of that phrase.

Why are some of the years of release I put on many films here being removed?

Because it is pretty Unnecessary to list release years next every mention of various films.

Years are only included with movie titles in page titles, filmographies, and in instances where there is another film with the same title and it is necessary to disambiguate.

I don't even have a problem with it lol, i just wanna know.

You argued that because the majority of contemporary sources use the other spelling of the name, it is deliberate and therefore the definitive version. What is the case for it being deliberately spelled that way, rather than being misspelled from another source? Is it not a possibility that the majority of sources had unknowingly spread the misspelled version instead? Is the Sci-Fi Japan Guide treated as a less-credible source despite using the spelling that engenders proper pronunciation?

I think it's better to use the spelling that is more accurate to the show and how the characters pronounce it. I do not think the proliferation of an improperly-spelled, and by consequence improperly-pronounced, version of the name is grounds for treating it as the authoritative version of the name. If my friend's name was "Pieter", but the majority of records continued to misspell his name as "Peter", I'd still use "Pieter" because that is the proper way to spell and say it. And this is a case where the difference in pronunciation is a lot more subtle.

Here is a breakdown of how the sources work out for the different spellings:

Cryptocleidus

• SciFi Japan series guide (2006)

Cryptocledius

• Godzilla: The Series - The Monster Wars DVD packaging (1999)
• Godzilla 1954-1999 Super Complete Works (2000)

Cryptcledius

• Godzilla: The Series - Monster Wars game packaging (2000)
• Godzilla: The Series official Sony website (circa 2000)

Cryptoclidus

• Godzilla: The Series - The Monster Wars DVD subtitles (1999)

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As you can see, it's a bit of a mess, but the SFJ article is literally the only source we could find that says "Cryptocleidus." The Crypto- part is sometimes misspelled as "Crypt-" but the -cledius ending nonetheless stays consistent. The pronunciation in the show is more like the real-life Cryptoclidus, which is confirmed by those subtitles for Monster Wars: Part 2. I see no reason that the SFJ article should be treated as gospel and all the other more contemporaneous sources be ignored just because it's a nicer spelling.

At that point why not use the real-life spelling used in the DVD subtitles? I get that subtitles can be wrong, but reading "cledius" is not the same as reading "cleidus", you kinda need the "ei" in there to make the name sound like the real-life spelling. The "nicer spelling" in this case at least gets you to pronounce it like how the characters in the show use it. I'm willing to concede that I made a mistake then, using treating "ei" as definitive. I think that using the wrong spelling, which leads people to pronounce the name differently from how the characters say it, because it consistently shows up more often shouldn't be used to treat it as the definitive version.

What's wrong with the edits I did now?

First of all Godzilla Raids Again did happen six months later and into the following year after Godzilla That's a fact.

Second, what's wrong with "...from the inside out..."? Everyone says that.

Third, Godzilla and the Lost Continent was the fifth and final novel in Cerasini's series; that's just to separate it from Ciencin's series.

So can these three please get reinserted?

You are adding unnecessary clarification and making things more long-winded than they need to be. These edits are not adding any important or useful information, they're just rephrasing things and making sentences longer without adding anything worthwhile. We've been asking you to stop making these edits in the past, but you keep doing them even after we remove them, then complain about it on our walls when we remove them again. This is an ongoing cycle that seems to never end because you refuse to listen to our feedback and continue to make the same edits and get upset at us for contesting them.

I will make this as clear as possible: Your edits keep being reverted because you are simply overcomplicating or rewording things in some attempt to make them sound more "distinguished," which serves no real beneficial purpose. Almost none of your edits consist of adding new information, they're just rephrasing what is already there. Sometimes you may correct a grammatical or syntax mistake, but a lot of the time you're just making things sound more long-winded and wordy, or changing something that is fine as it as already worded, seemingly just for the sake of changing it. I'm losing my patience because I keep having to comb through your edits and figure out what to keep and what to remove, then when I'm done I can expect you to leave an angry message on my wall, forcing me to explain my reasoning, which is pretty much the same every time.

You goofed on one of them. In the Godzilla: Second Generation section in the part on DAM, it said "..., they Godzilla to attack New York City." The word "sent" was one I put in there, then you removed it, so I had to put it back just now. I've got you right there. You goofed this time, not me. I saw it and you didn't. I was right and you were wrong. All of which just goes to show that even your judgments are not infallable.

And you may notice, btw, that I haven't even touched contractions anymore.

And I'm not giving you angry messages; I'm trying to explain things. And I'm not trying to be "distinguished" at all; just presenting facts that I know, like everyone else does here.

I'm sorry, but proclaiming "You goofed this time, not me. I saw it and you didn't. I was right and you were wrong. All of which just goes to show that even your judgments are not infallable" over a small oversight makes you sound really pompous and smug, and it makes the claim that you're "not giving you angry messages" fall apart. Even King's noted that he usually reverts all your edits, then goes through to find the good ones, because it's easier to do that than hunt through all your tiny edits. This doesn't disprove anything, he already knows this.

If I might say so, one of my additions to Frankenstein should be put back in; i.e., the one that said that Victor Frankenstein was a medical student, not a scientist, when he created the Frankenstein Monster.

If you've ever read the original Mary Shelley novel as I have, you'll see that's right. So may I please put that back in?

The page's Origins section is talking specifically about Frankenstein vs. Baragon, in which he's alluded to as "Dr. Frankenstein."

Okay, that's right; I was specifically referring to my addition to the part of that section that talks about the novel, not the film.

I was told once that, if a number is the first word in a sentence, it's written as a word, not as a number. Therefore, the way it was is grammatically correct, unless I'm wrong, which I don't think I am here.

I beg to differ, but Godzooky is Godzilla's nephew, not his cousin. Everyone knows that. So why was it changed back to the wrong term?

No, he isn't. The show's official materials all say "cousin." I've been trying to change it sitewide for months now but you keep reverting it.

Okay, thanks. I didn't know that.

If you look in the references to both covers when you edit it, one says "Godzilla Classic Collection '95 Volume 1 cover 1.jpg" and one says "Godzilla Classic Collection '95 Volume 1 cover 2.jpg". So why can't they be listed as such?

I just named them that because I needed something to distinguish the names of the files. They aren't the official names for the covers, so please stop adding them like they are.

Okay, thanks.