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With the recent Japanese release of Godzilla: Resurgence and the announced international release, I've been wanting to make a thread where I'd ask a rather specific question: What if the aftermaths of the events of Gojira '54 split off into multiple timelines with the Godzilla continuity? Warning: This is merely speculation and if there are any holes in the theory, just let me know.

First there's the Showa timeline, beginning with Godzilla Raids Again, all the way until Terror of Mechagodzilla in '75 and Destroy All Monsters (chronologically set in 1999). That seems about it, right? More about it later.

The next timeline is the Heisei timeline, which began with Godzilla '84 and ended with Godzilla vs. Destoroyah. The '84 film is said to be a sequel to the original '54 Godzilla, but how? What makes this different from Raids Again? This is when my theory truely comes into play.

In the third installment of the Heisei series, Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, people from the future year of 2204 (the people call themselves "Futurians") travel back to the year of 1945 where they spot a "Godzillasaurus". Obviously this specimen isn't the same as the one that would become the Godzilla that rose, attacked and was ultimately killed by the Oxygen Destroyer back in 1954, but what if this creature had a presence in the original series? What if it was supposed to be the Godzilla that appeared in Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs. Godzilla, etc? Yes.

Anyway, the Futurians apparently teleport the Godzillasaurus from Lagos Island into the Bering Sea, believing they erased the Godzilla altogether, right? Sort of. They didn't really erase Godzilla from history, but instead erase the events of Raids Again onwards (or at least transferred such films into an alternative timeline of course) and kickstarted the Heisei timeline. In short, the '55-'75 Godzilla and the '84-95 Godzilla are the same specimen/character/incarnation (all three were the same Godzillasaurus), but in two different altered series of events (remember this for later on).

But that's not all, the Millennium era's another story. First there's Godzilla 2000, which is probably the most difficult to explain since its "sense of continuity" is left rather vague. Some people once speculated that this particular film is set after Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (the last installment of the Heisei series) and it follows the Godzilla Junior all grown up. I have to admit that it's somewhat likely since they say in the film that Godzilla has become a "common event", even though this Godzilla looks radically different from previous designs.

Next is Godzilla vs. Megaguirus, which actually follows the original Godzilla from 1954, in a timeline where Dr. Serizawa and the Oxygen Destoryer never seemed to exist so Godzilla was never killed by the OD. This one seems more easier to figure out than G2K since it does explain the backstory very well. As for a second Godzilla, it might've never came to be in this particular timeline and the next one.

Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack is also easy to explain and figure out. This one also follows the original '54 Godzilla. Except this time, despite actually being killed off by the Oxygen Destroyer, it was resurrected by the souls of people killed by Japan's military back in WWII to seek revenge on the nation. The prologue also addresses the Roland Emmerich Godzilla film from 1998 as well as other monster sightings across the world (one of them could be Gamera, considered Kaneko directed both GMK and the '90s Gamera trilogy).

The Kiryu Saga (Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla & Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.) has its version of Mechagodzilla as a cybernetic weapon built by humanity with the actual bones of the '54 Godzilla contained within as well as a second Godzilla, but where did this particular Godzilla come from? Well, remember when I said that the Showa Godzilla and the Heisei Godzilla are the same character but in two different timelines? Well there might just be more to that, this Godzilla may also be the same as those two as well.

And finally there's Godzilla: Final Wars. The Godzilla in this is either the original one if it wasn't killed via Oxygen Destroyer (similar to Godzilla vs. Megaguirus) or another Godzilla entirely (maybe the same as Godzilla '55-'75, Godzilla '84-'95 and Godzilla '02-'03). The prologue when Godzilla was trapped in the South Pole is apparently set in 1964, a whole decade after the events of Gojira '54. The rest of the film is set in the 21st century, although it's never established what specific year.

As for Gareth Edwards' Godzilla reboot and Shin Godzilla/Godzilla: Resurgence. They're obviously seperate continuities, not just from each other but also any previous film/series.

In conclusion, the Godzilla timeline is indeed a split timeline. First, the events of Gojira '54 split off into one timeline when Godzilla was killed by Serizawa's device, and one when he wasn't (the GxM timeline). Next, the former itself splits into more alternative timelines, such as ones with a second Godzilla (the Showa timeline when the second Godzilla appeared since 1955, the FW timeline when it appeared in the South pole in 1964, the Heisei timeline when it appeared since 1984, the Kiryu Saga timeline when it appeared since 1999, and the G2K timeline when it fought Orga in 2000) and one without a new Godzilla (the GMK timeline).

That's my Godzilla Theory (so far at least), what do you think? Please feel free to leave your thoughts, ideas, opinions and reasons in the comment section down below. Thank you.

Posted by Son of Gorgo on 31 August 2016 at 13:16.
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The Godzilla timeline being a 'multiverse' (split timeline) makes sense. When you said I actually didn't think of it but it's such an obvious answer. When you said about the Futurians removing the Godzillasaurus and him turning into the 2nd Showa Godzilla I was "of course!" ... However upon thinking about it further, that kinda makes no sense. So the Futurians somehow erase the Showa timeline and still there's 2 new Godzillas? Godzilla 1984 - 1989 is the same Godzilla as 1991 - 1995, but the 1991 Godzilla was specifically created because of the timetravel and we know this is a 'different' Godzilla because he's 100 meters now. Also the 1954 Godzilla is said to have been erased, but then Destoroyah appears as if the Oxygen Destroyer still existed... just a total mess.

Nice hypothesis though. I am not too versed in the specifics of the timeline concerning the Futurians' changing of history though, I just know the official cover story (Godzilla is erased from history but a new one is created in 1991) and The King of the Monsters's rationalization that the Futurians actually ended up creating the same Godzilla that they wanted to erase in the first place (I assume that means that they still created the 1984 Godzilla and somehow... the 1991 Godzilla was just magically 16 meters taller? I don't even know...)

Posted by Titanollante (administrator) on 31 August 2016 at 14:14.
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Posted by Titanollante on 31 August 2016 at 14:14.

»The Godzilla timeline being a 'multiverse' (split timeline) makes sense. When you said I actually didn't think of it but it's such an obvious answer. When you said about the Futurians removing the Godzillasaurus and him turning into the 2nd Showa Godzilla I was "of course!" ... However upon thinking about it further, that kinda makes no sense. So the Futurians somehow erase the Showa timeline and still there's 2 new Godzillas? Godzilla 1984 - 1989 is the same Godzilla as 1991 - 1995, but the 1991 Godzilla was specifically created because of the timetravel and we know this is a 'different' Godzilla because he's 100 meters now. Also the 1954 Godzilla is said to have been erased, but then Destoroyah appears as if the Oxygen Destroyer still existed... just a total mess.

Nice hypothesis though. I am not too versed in the specifics of the timeline concerning the Futurians' changing of history though, I just know the official cover story (Godzilla is erased from history but a new one is created in 1991) and The King of the Monsters's rationalization that the Futurians actually ended up creating the same Godzilla that they wanted to erase in the first place (I assume that means that they still created the 1984 Godzilla and somehow... the 1991 Godzilla was just magically 16 meters taller? I don't even know...)«

The Futurians did create the 1984-1995 Godzilla. The reason Godzilla suddenly becomes 100 meters in 1991 (1992 in the movie) is because the Japanese government mistakenly believes Godzilla was erased from history and that there is a Godzillasaurus dormant in the Bering Sea, so they send a nuclear sub to try and transform it into Godzilla. Instead, the sub encounters the 80 meter ANEB-infected Godzilla in the ocean, who feeds on the sub, cures his ANEB infection and grows to 100 meters in height.

The Futurians never actually erased the 1954 Godzilla either. The Futurians erroneously believed the 1984 Godzilla was the same as the 1954 Godzilla, and that the Godzillasaurus on Lagos Island would be mutated into the 1954 Godzilla by the Castle Bravo test. They were wrong, and by moving the Godzillasaurus to the Bering Sea where it could be exposed to a nuclear sub crash in the 1970's, they created the Heisei Godzilla and did not affect the creation of the 1954 Godzilla at all. The 1954 Godzilla was still awakened by Castle Bravo and attacked Tokyo before being killed by the Oxygen Destroyer, while the Godzillasaurus from Lagos was mutated by a Russian nuclear submarine in the 1970's, then was awakened by a volcanic eruption in 1984.

Posted by The King of the Monsters (administrator) on 31 August 2016 at 17:27.
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Posted by The King of the Monsters on August 31, 2016 at 17:27.

» The reason Godzilla suddenly becomes 100 meters in 1991 (1992 in the movie) is because the Japanese government mistakenly believes Godzilla was erased from history

The Futurians erroneously believed the 1984 Godzilla was the same as the 1954 Godzilla«

How the heck do you mistakenly believe something that happened back 40 years ago didn't happen? And wow, for both of these bodies to be wrong, that's some pretty amazing idiocy.

Posted by Titanollante (administrator) on 31 August 2016 at 21:00.
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Obviously the government had no idea how time travel worked. They must have assumed that any changes in history only took hold in the present, hence why they could still remember Godzilla. The Futurians believed they were successful in erasing Godzilla from history and told the Japanese government this, and when Godzilla suddenly disappeared from the waters off Japan the government assumed he really was erased. The other characters wondered why they still remembered Godzilla and why Miki Saegusa could still sense him, and after some research came to the conclusion that Godzilla was never erased from history. By the time they could tell the government, it was too late and the nuclear submarine had already been intercepted by Godzilla.

As for why the Futurians believed there was only one Godzilla, it kind of makes sense. There were very few witnesses of the 1954 Godzilla's demise and no corpse was ever found, so when a second Godzilla appeared thirty years later everyone probably just assumed it was the same creature. The Futurians based their assumption on a highly theoretical book titled The Birth of Godzilla, which just assumed that since there was a Godzillasaurus living in the Marshall Islands prior to 1954 that it was mutated into the first Godzilla. In reality though, the 1954 Godzilla was a separate individual that was still awakened by the Castle Bravo test in 1954, while the Godzillasaurus on Lagos was dormant in the Bering Sea. Basically, the Futurians based their plans on an incorrect theory.

Posted by The King of the Monsters (administrator) on 31 August 2016 at 21:51.
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Posted by The King of the Monsters on 31 August 2016 at 21:51.

»Obviously the government had no idea how time travel worked. They must have assumed that any changes in history only took hold in the present, hence why they could still remember Godzilla. The Futurians believed they were successful in erasing Godzilla from history and told the Japanese government this, and when Godzilla suddenly disappeared from the waters off Japan the government assumed he really was erased. The other characters wondered why they still remembered Godzilla and why Miki Saegusa could still sense him, and after some research came to the conclusion that Godzilla was never erased from history. By the time they could tell the government, it was too late and the nuclear submarine had already been intercepted by Godzilla.

As for why the Futurians believed there was only one Godzilla, it kind of makes sense. There were very few witnesses of the 1954 Godzilla's demise and no corpse was ever found, so when a second Godzilla appeared thirty years later everyone probably just assumed it was the same creature. The Futurians based their assumption on a highly theoretical book titled The Birth of Godzilla, which just assumed that since there was a Godzillasaurus living in the Marshall Islands prior to 1954 that it was mutated into the first Godzilla. In reality though, the 1954 Godzilla was a separate individual that was still awakened by the Castle Bravo test in 1954, while the Godzillasaurus on Lagos was dormant in the Bering Sea. Basically, the Futurians based their plans on an incorrect theory.«

Exactly, cheers for understanding. ;)

Posted by Son of Gorgo on 4 September 2016 at 17:03.
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Posted by Titanollante on 31 August 2016 at 14:14.

»So the Futurians somehow erase the Showa timeline and still there's 2 new Godzillas? Godzilla 1984 - 1989 is the same Godzilla as 1991 - 1995, but the 1991 Godzilla was specifically created because of the timetravel and we know this is a 'different' Godzilla because he's 100 meters now. Also the 1954 Godzilla is said to have been erased, but then Destoroyah appears as if the Oxygen Destroyer still existed... just a total mess.

Nice hypothesis though. I am not too versed in the specifics of the timeline concerning the Futurians' changing of history though, I just know the official cover story (Godzilla is erased from history but a new one is created in 1991) and The King of the Monsters's rationalization that the Futurians actually ended up creating the same Godzilla that they wanted to erase in the first place (I assume that means that they still created the 1984 Godzilla and somehow... the 1991 Godzilla was just magically 16 meters taller? I don't even know...)«

http://giantmonsters.wikia.com/wiki/Godzilla_Misconceptions#Were_the_events_of_Godzilla.2C_The_Return_of_Godzilla.2C_and_Godzilla_vs._Biollante_erased_from_the_Heisei_timeline_in_Godzilla_vs._King_Ghidorah.3F

Posted by Son of Gorgo on 6 September 2016 at 15:22.
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This posted theory is my prevalent theory concerning Showa/Heisei movies. That V. King Ghidorah links the two series into one. But there are a few points that bugged me about it -

Vs. Hedorah takes place (supposedly) in 1971, Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster in 1964, V. The Sea Monster in 1966. These events are set events to happen, meaning there isn't an 'alien race' making them happen. Unless they are not coincidental in their occurence, meaning Hedorah came to earth intentionally to fight Godzilla, same as Ghidorah. 
So, in the Futurian altered timeline, without an 'active' Godzilla from 55 - 84, Hedorah and Ghidorah 

could have passed by the earth instead of crashing. And without Ghidorah targeting earth, I do not think that Nebulans (Vs. Gigan), Simians (Mechagodzilla) or Kilaaks (Destroy all monsters) decided to 'invade' earth, and instead just integrated into Earth society secretly.

The Red Bamboo in 'Sea Monster' was more of a world threat, and may have been dealt with by interpol,  without Godzilla's interference, so that is possible. Interpol was the main deterrent to the Simians in v. Mechagodzilla.
Also, without the active Godzilla, Minilla would've been killed and eaten by the Kamacuras/Gimantis' in Son of Godzilla. So, that's why he isn't in Heisei either.  
So, overall, I think that, in the new 'Futurian' timeline, Godzilla was the cause for most, if not ALL, of the alien invasions and space monster attacks. 
I may have had too much time to think this one over. lol. 

Posted by Freakctc79 on 20 July 2020 at 23:17.
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i think that some of the comments Don't make sense

Posted by TheGodzillaGuy3000 on 1 September 2020 at 16:13.