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In the wake of KOTM's release, I've seen a lot of people talking about how they want to see a movie that's just about Godzilla and not about "boring human drama". I'm not gonna lie, this kind of talk is actually starting to drive me up the wall.

I actually already made a statement about this on my summary of KOTM's human characters. For convenience, here is what I wrote (and I quote):

"Here’s the thing about human characters in Godzilla movies. As “annoying” as they may be, they’re actually essential to making them work. Having human characters reminds the audience of what the stakes are, and how dangerous these creatures are. The most effective scenes of the original 1954 film aren’t the ones where Godzilla is pulling high-tension wires down or looking in on subway trains; it’s the ones after the rampage, the ones where little children are being diagnosed with lethal doses of radiation; where the populace finds itself praying from deliverance from what seems to be a wrathful god of destruction; when Japan finds itself once again pulled into the nightmare of a potential atomic holocaust.

Whether Godzilla is an allegory for the Hiroshima bomb or the folly of Man in general, the humans are an essential part of driving those messages home; they’re the ones who are affected by the creatures’ actions. Without them, the movies would collapse in on themselves. They’d basically devolve into speculative evolution documentaries or something; fun to watch, but ultimately with no meaning behind them whatsoever. They really would become the mindless monster romps that people write the Godzilla franchise off as."

Now, admittedly, this argument kind of falls apart if the human characters aren't any good. The late Showa era, the 1998 film, and the Anime Trilogy are the first examples to come to mind (your mileage may vary). I think my point still stands, though.

I still stand by this, but I wanted to expand on it a little bit.

I mean, let's be honest: do we really want to watch a two-hour movie that's nothing but the monsters? I want you to really think about it. Just the monsters, with absolutely no breaks in between. No dialogue, no explanations, no time to breath between scenes. It probably wouldn't even be just the fighting. Do any of you guys think of how much time Godzilla spends in these movies just swimming from point A to point B? Even the monster fights would get dull. You know how everyone jokes that the Transformer movies are nothing but Michael Bay explosion fantasies or whatever? Yeah. All that city destruction would get really old after a while.

I'm fairly certain that if we did get a Godzilla movie that was just two hours of literally nothing but monsters, even the best of us would be bored out of our minds. The fact is, kaiju fights and destruction really work better in doses. You can't have a movie that's just that with no substance to back it up, however little of it may be there.

Now maybe if they did a movie where the monsters were anthropomorphic, like The Lion King or whatnot, or if it was a nature-type documentary like Walking with Dinosaurs, a wall-to-wall monsters feature could work. But as typical, feature-lenght movie production? No. It wouldn't work at all.

Posted by JurassicKaiju14 on 10 September 2019 at 02:12.
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Whenever the subject comes up, I always get stuck on how much it would cost. (Unless it was animated, I guess.)

Posted by Astounding Beyond Belief (administrator) on 10 September 2019 at 02:22.
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Posted by Astounding Beyond Belief on 10 September 2019 at 02:22.

»Whenever the subject comes up, I always get stuck on how much it would cost. (Unless it was animated, I guess.)«

Exactly. The cost would be ridiculously high. They could potentially pull it off, of course. I mean, they remade the Lion King entirely with CGI. But there's no guarantee that it would be as successful as the classic format.

Posted by JurassicKaiju14 on 10 September 2019 at 11:55.
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The new Lion King hints at just how expensive a no-humans kaiju movie would be... it cost $260 million, and that was with normal-sized animals!

Posted by Astounding Beyond Belief (administrator) on 10 September 2019 at 13:38.
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Yeah, and considering KOTM's $170 million budget...phew!

Posted by JurassicKaiju14 on 10 September 2019 at 18:20.
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Your right, a humanless Godzilla film won't work.


There will be no buildings to destroy

Posted by KING GHIDORAH 1954 on 15 December 2019 at 15:39.
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@KING GHIDORAH 1954 More to the point, there wouldn't be a story.

Posted by JurassicKaiju14 on 29 December 2019 at 02:06.
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I agree. Humans are an essential part of Godzilla movies. Part of the reason people say that they want a humanless Godzilla movie is because of some installments where the humans are focused on too much (Haruo Sakaki: City on the Edge of Battle is a suitable nickname for the second anime trilogy film); however, they forget that the films still need the humans, because they help translate the messages of the films, and bring them to the people. In a sense, without humans, there probably would bot be a clear message.

Posted by JohnGojira on 18 June 2020 at 17:09.
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I definitely think it's the kind of situation where people aren't used to seeing it done in a way they like so they assume the problem is the human characters rather than just human characters who don't work well.

I could, however, totally see a kaiju movie with mostly action scenes working out if done well. My brain jumps to Mad Max: Fury Road as an example of how to keep the action almost constant while still telling a compelling story.

Overall though, I think kaiju movies are at their best when they lean more towards horror than towards superheroes (of course this is personal taste and there are exceptions). I really liked Kong: Skull Island for that very reason.

Hope this all makes sense.

Posted by SummerTimeAlice on 26 March 2021 at 04:07.
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If some people only like the kaiju scenes, then might as well edit the movie for themselves instead of complaining. We have tons of "Destruction Scenes" videos on Youtube that removes all human scenes from certain films.

Posted by ShodaiMeesmothLarva on 26 March 2021 at 04:44.