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Mr. Eiga (talkcontribs)

Les am i aloud to make the topic of giant monster films from The United States or is it to off topic to begin with?

Les (talkcontribs)

I assume you're asking if you're allowed to make sandboxes for American movies. They're on a case-by-case basis, like anything else. If you don't want something to get deleted, then ask about the movie first before you make a sandbox for it. The admins discuss what movies fit on the site and don't.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Mr. Eiga: As I know, films, such as The Lost World, Them!, Tarantula!, It Came from Beneath the Sea, Jurassic Park, The Meg and many other aren't allowed here. But films, like Pacific Rim, Rampage, The Giant Claw, Mega Shark, Monsters (2010) and Monster Island are allowed, because they are related to the many films on Wikizilla. That's sad for me too, that we cannot create articles about these films, but we must follow the rules.

Les (talkcontribs)

All of the films we have on the site have been deliberated over and we would've came to a consensus to include them. Mega Shark, as personally worthless as I think those movies are, managed to squeak by because of its clear inspirations from kaiju movies (it has a Mecha Shark in one movie, not to mention a ripoff of a Titan from Attack on Titan) and the fact that it was produced by The Asylum, who have made mockbusters of both Pacific Rim and Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

There's somewhat of a case for The Lost World due to it being a direct precursor to King Kong, but I don't like the precedent it sets for movies exclusively about dinosaurs who aren't monstrous in any way. The Last Dinosaur is the closest comparison, and that one's a no-brainer because of its use of suitmation and distribution by Toho.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Les: But The Lost World isn't just a precursor of King Kong; it is also the first film with giant monster destroying buildings and attacking city. I agree about other films but not this one.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

I think it would be helpful for everyone that edits the site if the intended scope/focus of this Wiki was clarified somewhere (forgive me if it is, but I haven't seen that anywhere). Despite the name, it's obviously not confined to just Godzilla movies, but it doesn't seem to be confined to just (giant) monster movies either. It seems to me that some movies we currently have pages for or which have been recently sandboxed would be better suited to some of the other fan Wikis, namely Tokupedia.

Les (talkcontribs)

Ultimately everything stems from Godzilla, Gamera and Kong, but it isn't confined just to that.

Movies which employ special effects, are produced by companies related to kaiju films or that were worked on by people who also worked on kaiju films, and feature monsters or other strange creatures, are usually on the table. Things like Buddha (1961) and The Invisible Swordsman are examples of this, being produced by Daiei who are obviously known for the Gamera series plus the Daimajin and Yokai Monsters movies, feature strange creatures, and employ tokusatsu techniques. It's impossible to make clear-cut rules, because there will always be edge cases.

The website's scope has admittedly become rather large, but at the end of the day it's down to what we as the administrators feel is right for the website and can be adequately covered by us.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Les, please, can you allow me create article about The Lost World? I think I argued about the inclusion of it.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

The Them! sandbox is three years old and we forgot to decide what we were going to do with it. Personally, I'm not in favor of it - though I would vote for The Lost World because of how much it influenced the original King Kong.

In regards to Asylum and Asylum-tier films, I don't think any of them really belong here besides the mockbusters of films we already cover (Monster, the Atlantic Rim pair, and Monster Island) and the Mega Shark series.