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Baragon Manda and Varan as Ghidorahs enemies?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Are we sure that counts?

an example i can think of is how Rodan in KOTM was siding with Ghidorah who opposed Godzilla but he never directly fought Godzilla so shouldn't the same logic that the three are not Ghidorahs enemies be applied here?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Counting them as Ghidorah enemies in DAM seems like a stretch, yeah. Worth noting that they fought him in the manga adaptation though.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Yeah im asking because im afraid if i undid the Undos les did i would just get in trouble.

But frankly i do not think they should be listed as Ghidorahs enemies because Kotm Rodan isnt listed as Godzillas Foe despite being on opposing sides.

Les (talkcontribs)

The monsters from DAM are often grouped together as the "Kaiju Allied Forces" - 10 monsters against King Ghidorah was central to the marketing. The implication is obvious that Varan and the other minor monsters are still enemies of King Ghidorah. It just seems like splitting hairs to me.

Honestly, I would call Rodan an enemy of Godzilla in KOTM, too. All of the monsters swarm around and glare at him before they submit.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Marketing doesnt mean much when compared to whats actually shown in the film I honestly do not agree. It should only count when monsters come in direct conflict with eachother.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Responding to the latest Rodan edits. Reposting and expamdong upon an edit message here.

Bowing to Godzilla doesnt mean he is an ally (Scylla for example fought him later in Dominion) i think listing Godzilla as an enemy despite the two never directly fighting is a Massive Stretch if not outright false because i honestly dont think snarling at eachother should even count as being ones enemy it just comes off as a big reach and isnt justified honestly.

Im not even sure if that edit was even agreed upon with other staff .

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Something that minor doesn't require staff coordination. I can't say I really care one way or another.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

if no one can agree on something what hope is there for some of the pages and how it should be handled???

that only leads to fighting and accusations if there isn't a solid agreement on how to handle it.

because to me i feel stating Rodan as Godzillas enemy then ally is outright false given the context (again just because he bows doesn't mean he is an ally, Scylla also bowed but then fought Godzilla in Godzilla Dominion) and being ones enemy frankly should only count if that monster directly comes into physical conflict with another monster (i feel some human characters are an exception such as Yun being listed as one of Ultimas foes for example) but i feel like listing the other bowing titans as enemies would also be a gigantic reach and I'm sure others probably feel the same way.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's pretty much at the bottom of the list of things we need clear rules for. Putting together criteria for what media the site should cover is my focus right now.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)