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Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Les (talkcontribs)

It's right there in the caption... it's an advertisement for Marine Kong, the first kaiju television series.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Marine Kong? what?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Never herd of it

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

why is it a poster then it should be for films.

Les (talkcontribs)

As I said, it's probably an advertisement. From a magazine or newspaper.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Why has the show never brought up before?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Here's Maser Patrol: "Shockingly, the monster has not gotten much love in its native Japan: there’s no DVD release, and the VHS release was incomplete (it wasn’t even in stores, it was an order-by-mail release)." Looks to be only one episode on YouTube, with no subtitles.

I considered it for the Lost Media video, but Les argued that it wasn't relevant enough (and the script was getting very long). If you want to make a page on it, I'd suggest Tokupedia.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Well at least we know what's in the first two episodes, production info and VHS release.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

We have pages on lost films why not TV shows?

Les (talkcontribs)

Assault! Human!! is a lost TV show. The problem is Marine Kong has little to nothing to do with the other things we cover.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

We're significantly stricter about the TV shows we cover, since they require so much work.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

What about the monster? from the second episode we know its abilities.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Why would we cover a monster but not its show?

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

Marine Kong should at least be given a chance. We have stuff like Gogola and Legend of Dinosaurs and Monster Birds, which are even less connected to the core of the wiki so why is this exempt?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

^

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Read what I wrote.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

at least its not going to be a article with few info either way.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

It's two episodes. Definitely not that much work.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

^I think we need a vote on somewhere popular. (since everyone has a different opinion)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
The H-Man (talkcontribs)

C'mon guys, it's already been politely declined. There was also the suggestion to take the page to Tokupedia. The voting thing is frankly ridiculous.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

"It's two episodes."

26, actually. But the length is besides the point - we don't want kaiju shows on Wikizilla that aren't from Toho or otherwise closely linked to what we cover, period. And trying to drum up support from random kaiju fans on a different site is a non-starter.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

But we don't have those 26.


Also, you didn't even acknowledge that there's a lot of things covered here that aren't connected to Toho like Gogola and Legend of Dinosaurs and Monster Birds.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

You assume that the rest of the episodes will never be released. And this is the last time I'm going to repeat that we hold TV shows to different standards than movies. A wiki exists for miscellaneous tokusatsu shows - use it.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

One vote soo far yes.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

there was a vote on taking down the ultraman article why can't we do the same for creating one?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

I am making a page on the show on Tokupedia.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Aight

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Done i hate fandom's screen type when you edit however you just can't see the page that you are creating.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Didn't someone at Toho work on Marine Kong or was it Agon?

Les (talkcontribs)

Agon was partially written by Shinichi Sekizawa, and the monster suit was made by Fuminori Ohashi (who played the Snowman in Half Human).

Lamango (talkcontribs)

That's what I was thinking about. Yeah, looked in Masters of Monsters book and it says exactly that. Thanks Les.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

@Lamango An actor from Toho named Shinpei Takagi played Marine Kong.

Les (talkcontribs)

Citation needed. Plus he was not "from Toho." Only three of the 104 roles on his JMDb were Toho movies.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

I think he may have been credited in the episode on youtube.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

He wasn't credited in that episode and I don't recall any specific credit for whomever played Marine Kong.

Titanosaurus vs. Mougera.

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Mech Anguirus (talkcontribs)

Are you still making it? Does it just use stock footage or is it actually claymation or some other method?

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

He said suits in the fan-film topic.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Stock footage for some shots.

Nice profile!

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TheCarlosfieldParadox (talkcontribs)

You read the title.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

thanks.

Mothra DVD audio commentary

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Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)
Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

on the copy i have, it has the american poster for the film on the front cover and lobby cards on the back.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Just noticed my second link doesn't work... this one?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Odd difference here's mine...

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

From that, I would surmise that it's the same as the 2009 Ryfle/Godziszewski commentary. (Here it is if you want to compare.) Not accurate to say the commentary is "by" Honda as well if they just played an excerpt.

Newly Discovered kaiju film!

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Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

apparently its titled The Founding of Ming Dynasty (朱洪武)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

This video says its a giant monster film can it be here?

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

You are doing hard research for finding all these films.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

I found out about the film after seeing War God.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

The two serpent monsters in the film use godzilla and rodan roars, and if i can make this page i will putt a lot of hard work into it, and yes i am not going to make many film pages now.

Lamango (talkcontribs)
Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

It does. soo the monsters are covered by ultra wiki.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Some of the monsters are reused toho suits like the Water Demon.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

the effects where done by Koichi Takano and we have a page for him on or site.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

The Fairy and the Devil is not the same film.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Ah, it's not the same film, but uses the same special effects.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Nippon Eiji Tsuburaya Special Effects Company did the special effects for the 1971 film, his eiji's company not the man himself he died before the production even started for the film.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Yeah I knew that part, I just remember I read it on a french kaiju site like, Club de Monster or something.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Is there a version of this that isn't cropped? Can't read half the subtitles on the archive.org copy.

Titanollante (talkcontribs)

"Category:Aliens" is the category to be applied to the pages you've been adding the non-existent "Seijin" category to. That is not a category that needs to exist as it is redundant.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Ok.

Fan films

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AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

Hey Mr. Eiga, if you ever need ideas for new fan films (cause I saw your Titanosaurus vs. Moguera film) just come to me, cause I’ve got a TON.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

what i am currently working on (Suits)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i'll post the film to my youtube channel when it's done.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Thanks. i finished the scripted in December of 2020, and now working on The Stock Footage and storyboards.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

Wait, SUITS? Holy crap, that sounds amazing1

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

thank you.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

My Brother planned to use lego and clay for stop-motion for the fan film and suggested to use stock footage and puppets like the toho kaiju film of the 1970s.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

That's obviously very cool! But what do you mean under working on suits? Are you making real suits? It just is very hard. Sometimes several people make a suit.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

well where going to be making character suits in about a month

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

It's the hard work... Can I ask, from what material will you make suits?

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

I came up with a film called Godzilla: Kaiju Defense Directive, if you want any more info on that (like the plot and stuff), then just ask.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

ok.

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

I also came up with a couple others; like Return of the Orochi, Destroy all Monsters 2, Godzilla vs. Biollante 2, King Kong vs. Mechagodzilla, TTOS, and Demon of the Void.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Gamera vs. Gigan

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

Is that another one of yours?

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

like I said, if anybody wants to know about the plots for any of the films I mentioned.... I’d be happy to explain.

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

And also HOLY CRAP this page blew up in just a couple hours!

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i hope the budget doesn't grow.

AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

Okay I’m just gonna tell you one of the plots anyways

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i'll tell you mine:

Titanosaurus from the Japanese sea attacks a japanese oil rig which explodes sending the familys into total chaos, meanwhile  a team of scientist find a giant robot in the heart of Mount Mihara. eight weeks later Titanosaurus attacks Tokyo harbor the Japanese Defense Force plan attack on the monser if it shows up on Japanese shores again, the scientist talk to the J.G.F about the giant alien robot known as Moguera in Mount Mihara one clams that they may be able to have control of Moguera Officer E3 Sentry approves the discovery incase of Titanosaurus's Counterattack Titanosaurus attacks Nagoya destroying Nagoya Tower, Moguera is released under Officer E3 Sentry's control battling, Titanosaurus and sending him into space.
AstroFanMan (talkcontribs)

Godzilla: Kaiju Defense Directive is pretty much a fan-made sequel to Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S, and its about a couple years after the events of Tokyo S.O.S, the AMF had made several mechs and DNA-modified kaiju, including Krystalak(Futami) and Obsidius(Tezuka). Suddenly, King Ghidorah comes down from space and wakes all of these mechs and kaiju hidden in the AMF, but it also wakes Godzilla and Mothra, who decide to work together with a Ghost-Possessed Kiryu to defeat Ghidorah, and also pick up a cyborg Kamoebas on the way. Near the end, King Ghidorah combines with the AMF’s most top secret kaiju, Death Godzilla and creates the new Desghidorah, but, thankfully, Godzilla and the others defeat him. But, in the process, they destroy the AMF’s top secret base; and a canister named “Virus” is seen cracked open and a type of gas begins floating up to space.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

you see i am still working on the script and the puppets may be worse then i thought!

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

I'm in the planning phase of a fanfilm called Godzilla: Mayday. I won't give plot details outright but for a hint, combine the Kiryu Saga with Moby Dick and sprinkle a lil' bit of Shin just for good measure.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

sounds like a fan film to me.

Summary by Kaiju No. 14

misread edit from ShodaiMeesmothLarva

ShodaiMeesmothLarva (talkcontribs)

Why was my edit on the Godzilla (franchise) page being reverted? All I did on the page was to remove a typographical error.

The changes also show this.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

sorry i misread your edit.

Odd korean films

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Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i found this film it may be a giant monster special effects movie and its on this talk with real korean giant monster films theres also a new film 목숨을 판 사나이 (1966), 용왕 삼태자 (1977), 악어의 공포 (1978), 몽녀한 (1984) and this kaiju film! 비천괴수 (1985) (the page is full of giant monster films) the final films in the list are Young Gu and Dinosaur Zuzu (1993) (we have that page) 영구와 우주괴물 불괴리, lit. Young Gu and the Cosmic Monster (1994), 드래곤 투카 (1996), Reptilian (1999), (2001 Yonggary), The Host and D-War, Chaw 차우 (2009년 개봉), 7광구 (2011년 개봉), 물괴 (2018년 개봉 예정)

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

are we allowed any of these newly found films?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

The Host, Chaw, Section 7, and Monstrum are not getting pages. The Flying Monster can get a page - the SRS Cinema Blu-ray just came out, so it's got an actual translation, and Ultra Wiki has said they don't plan to cover it despite all the Ultra Series stock footage. I haven't seen (or know much about) any of the others.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

I've heard D-War was a box office failure in Japan when I looked on Wikipedia

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

what film is The Flying Monster? please explan

Les (talkcontribs)

The Flying Monster = 비천괴수

It was released by SRS Cinema as War of the God Monsters

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

It looks like a korean Gappa film.

and why do soo many Giant Monster films have "War" and "Monsters" in the title i understand that there Giant monsters fighting in a film but its soo confusing these titles.
Les (talkcontribs)

Nothing to do with Gappa. It's composed almost entirely of Ultraman stock footage.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

chaw, Host and sector 7 are not kaiju movies Kaiju No. 14

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I deleted it - the many discussions we've all been having recently about what does and doesn't belong on this site made me realize there was really no justification for it (aside from my adoration of it).

Takeshi Yamamoto and uncited information

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The H-Man (talkcontribs)

In your edit, you said, "if you didn't know we trust the Japanese Wikipedia over the English Wikipedia". That doesn't mean we should blindly trust uncited information, just because it's from the Japanese Wiki.

More concerning: in an effort to add credence to our Yamamoto page, you invented information that you supplied to the Japanese Wikipedia. Talk about unethical!

The Japanese entry had previously been unedited since September 14, 2020. All of a sudden, at 18:53 UTC (the same approximate time you were making edits to the Yamamoto page on Wikizilla), someone named "Eiga-Kevin2" changed the birthdate on the Japanese Wikipedia to "1936-1949" and then to "1939."

Here's the (now unbroken) link to the history of the Jpn Wikipedia entry.

Do not invent information or insert uncited information into other sources only to add a reference here.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

i know what was going on i was reading books about the man and they all had a different birthday!

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

can we please let this pass

Koopa (talkcontribs)

No, not really - please, take the above information into account, and also, give and cite sources. "I was reading books" is too vague a justification.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

To add to this, if you really have books that cite his birthday, why in the world didn't you just cite those on our page? Instead, you added a reference to an uncited edit you made to the Japanese Wikipedia. That's such a convoluted and cryptic workaround to the birthday issue that I can't help but think you were just trying to pull a fast one.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

The History of Japanese Filmography 1920-1990

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

エクサイクロベティア オブ ゴジラ 最新ゴジラ大百科

Les (talkcontribs)

Page number?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

The History of Japanese Filmography 1920-1990 page 82

Les (talkcontribs)

What about the other one?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

エクサイクロベティア オブ ゴジラ 最新ゴジラ大百科 30 something