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ive noticed every mention of great ape being removed and just replaced with "unidentified apes", wouldnt it be better to refer to them as great apes since that's what the movie calls them?, i also asked jarred if they had a species name and he said he didn't know.

I'm a bit confused about it all, so trying to straighten this out. Was that this reply you're talking about or another one?

That's it, the question above related to skar and it extended to suko and the others,

Here it is.

https://twitter.com/Throwawayyongry/status/1774958988410446157

@Keeri'ijra said that in the novelization, Ilene Andrews refers to all ape Titans as "Great Apes", and yeah it wound't make sense to introduce another kind of giant apes, but with Jared's answer, I'm really confused as well.

I'm hoping the artbook will give some clarification.

Jared said that "Great Apes" specifically refers to a different species or is it just that the Geat Apes under Skar's rule are different from the Kong-type of Great Apes?

He only said that they are not the same species after someone asked if Skar, Suko and the apes were supposed to be the same species as Kong

https://twitter.com/Throwawayyongry/status/1774958988410446157

File:Not the same species.png

So maybe Great Apes really is just a blanket term for ape-like Titans. Not overt confirmation, but maybe this will be less confusing than it currently seems.

It honestly does sound more like an umbrella term. I mean, we use the term “great apes” for the hominids (*like the extant gorillas, orangutans, chimps, bonobos, and humans*) with “lesser apes” referring to gibbons.

To me, the Iwi story that Ilene recounts sounds like it's contrasting the Titans and Great Apes. "Titans were the guardians of nature, and the Great Apes became the protectors of humanity." And from what I remember, Trapper refers to Kong as a Titan, so that could be support for Kong not being a Great Ape.

I can't imagine "Great Ape" as being the actual name for that species, just an umbrella term to refer to them, since they're, well, great apes. It's not like Ilene could have instantly known their proper name, or that the Iwi are suited to give animals common names (like, they called Godzilla "Zo-zla-halawa". Great name 👍).

Some Chinese posts identifies them as "King Kong's clan" or "King Kong's people" ( it appears to have different translations (?) )

https://www.douyin.com/video/7354204814831570176

https://weibo.com/7063039516/O6CeJz6x3

https://weibo.com/6109987426/O93pSDxFr

This could be helpful, but I don’t think "King Kong's clan" or "King Kong's people" is meant to indicate that they are actually specimens of Kong’s kind, but rather that they are his people since he’s become their new leader.

NEW INFO!

If it was translated correctly, this official Japanese site does said that the Great Apes are the same kind of Titans as Kong

https://natalie.mu/eiga/pp/godzilla-movie2024

https://ogre.natalie.mu/media/pp/godzilla-movie2024/godzilla-movie2024_relation-6.jpg?imwidth=1200&imdensity=1

For what it's worth, this isn't "the official site" (that would be Godzilla-Movie.jp). The introduction just makes it sound like it's something Eiga Natalie is publishing on their own; all of the text is written by Hyouri Takahashi, who is a musician and Godzilla fan. I'd take Krichevsky's word in this case.

A bit out of the subject but, the title sequence seems to confirm they are Titans

https://twitter.com/DinoKaiju1227/status/1781091494796960130

Okay, that's great. After all, the Skar King and Suko are Titans.

So, the film's theater program does say they are the same type as Kong

File:GxK theater program 3.jpg

"Peat Ipes"

Yeah, I don't really trust that translation.

That was already in english, ignore that

There is something written in Japanese bellow, and it translated to that

File:GxK theater program 3.jpg

I'd like a better picture, but it does look to me like:

「地下空洞に棲息するコングと同種の猿型のタイタン。」
"Simian Titans of the same kind as Kong who live in the Hollow Earth."

There are several definitions of 同種 including "same kind", "same sort", and "same species" so I don't know how definitively we can say which it means. If "Great Ape" is just a subcategory of Titans, then it could mean that these individuals share that "type" with Kong, but maybe that's mental gymnastics /shrug

I'm interested to know what the novelization says, even if it's not strictly canon.

The novelization outright uses "Great Apes" as an umbrella term. Kong, his parents, all simian Titans are referred to as Great Apes in the novelization.

Which makes sense, after all, they are great apes XD

I found a better picture!

File:GxK theater program 3.2.jpg