Topic on User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief

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Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I noticed in the recent changes that it was okay to inquire as to the details of how Da1n0nly0mega was found out to be Zillaman. If it's not too much to ask, I am curious.

Les (talkcontribs)

He was trying to impersonate TheCarlosfieldParadox, but talked nothing like him and didn’t have matching IP addresses. Those things did, however, match up to Zillaman98. He also linked his Twitter account and the posts were a dead ringer for Zillaman.

He admitted to it after he was banned, so it’s a done deal.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Bummer. Thank you for telling me.

Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes (talkcontribs)

I had befriended Zillerman and he mostly seems alright when he doesn't feel like he is being targeted, The1only0mega was actually a friends account he borrowed because he felt his ban over the Shimo thing wasn't fair the reason he kept undoing the Shimo edits his because he felt you didn't bother to read any of the direct messages and that the edits were the only way you would have listened. From his perspective he felt like he was being singled out and targeted because he actively tried to help the site and had question things and in his mind he assumed the admins had it out for him because he bothered to attempt and to try and contribute. Zillerman is aware that he has caused issues, before and in hindsight thinks borrowing his friends account was a dumb idea and has had some outburst in the past over some matters which he doesn't entirely recall but he honestly does feel like he was treated rather poorly and singled out or outright ignored when all when he was trying to do was in his mind was tryna help.

If he has any outburst possibly directed at anyone after this ban, he told me he just couldn't take the stress anymore and can't really cope well with certain things knowing how to control his emotions fully and in the moment probably just ended up loosing it which he also regrets

Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes (talkcontribs)

Hecc, almost all of the edits in the past few months, I did were requested by Zillerman as I felt that his ban was kinda unfair, yeah, almost all of the edits I made in 2024 were edits he wanted to do but couldn't. I hid the fact of this for a couple months as I knew this would cause drama but now that he is found, I just felt like I had to be honest with you, I am aware of the trouble this confession will stir up and I expect to face the consequences-Uradcy

Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes (talkcontribs)

Honestly I think Zillerman should just be unbanned, ok sure, his edits on the Shimo page were pretty silly but he had good intentions behind those, even if they didn't really make sense (to me atleast), but even tho he did cause a conflict with those edits, I don't think it warrants a 1-year ban.

Les (talkcontribs)

You’re not gonna be punished just for being friends with someone. But I’ve heard the sob story from him already and I’m not interested, especially after spamming me on Discord a few hours ago and calling me a “loathable piece of shit” among other things.

If we had it out for him, he would’ve been gone from here a long time ago. We didn’t rope him in with Kaiju No. 14’s ban because we acknowledged he had nothing to do with that, and even with his penultimate ban we decided he could have one last chance. But he betrayed our trust and I’m done with him. He’s not coming back.

Les (talkcontribs)

Also just to clarify, the reason he got a year in the first place was because he had already been banned two or three times for edit-warring in the past and was warned about it plenty more times than that. If you’re going to keep breaking the rules and being disruptive, we can’t just keep giving slaps on the wrist. If he was actually sorry, there would have been a change in his conduct, but there wasn’t. And now he couldn’t help himself but to make another dumb decision. He has nobody to blame but himself.

Titanus Kaiju Fan (talkcontribs)

Dang. I feel kind of bad for him, but I guess it serves him right.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

While I most certainly don't agree with the way he handled many user interactions and there were far too many warnings (not even just outright bans) for me to feel bad for him by now, it's definitely a shame that the user who introduced me to how the site works and frequently encouraged me to work numerous projects not only got himself perma-banned, but went about doing so by taking advantage of the fact another user doesn't frequent the site and then throwing a fit when he's discovered.

Titanus Kaiju Fan (talkcontribs)

Must be hard. This kind of reminds me of Anakin going to the Dark Side and Obi-Wan confronting him.

Titanozilla2023 (talkcontribs)

I was just wondering: why impersonate TheCarlosfieldParadox? I get he's been away from the site for a while but why didn't Zillaman98 just pretend to be a completely new user? It's alright if you don't know, I'm just confused as to why he would do that.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

When he created that account he claimed to be Carlosfield with "...couldnt get back into my account so i had to make a new one pls dont ban". My guess is he thought it would be less suspicious to impersonate someone who rarely still uses the site than to create a new account right after being banned. However, as Les and ABB have now investigated, there are numerous and rather blatant differences between the two but obvious parallels to Zillaman himself, so I guess he didn't think much beyond using the guise to create an account.

Les (talkcontribs)

I’m quite sure he and Carlos were in on it together, as they are known friends. Without giving away anything too personal, the IP that came up for the account’s earliest activity (so introducing himself) traced to Carlos’ location, but all subsequent activity I could find pointed to Zillaman’s location.

Zillaman’s now trying to argue that he was just borrowing a friend’s account and not impersonating him, but I don’t buy it. As I said, I couldn’t find any edits from the account that were verifiably Carlos, and Zillaman obviously wasn’t going to give away his identity, so he allowed everyone to believe he was still Carlos. Not to mention that the account also took credit for a Twitter page that Zillaman operates, so he was clearly trying to pass it off as Carlos’s.

It seems to me like he got Carlos to set up an account for him and then was going to use it for as long as he could. But either way, he was knowingly evading a ban, so I don’t care too much about the explanation.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Oh. Well, if so, I guess that's better than impersonating someone without their consent. Either way it doesn't excuse deception. I personally don't get why he wouldn't just wait a few months.

Titanus Kaiju Fan (talkcontribs)

My guess would be that he decided to impersonate a user who hasn't been on the wiki for a while to create the illusion that TheCarlosfieldParadox suddenly decided to make a comeback. All it takes is simply carefully checking the username to know that it isn't TheCarlosfieldParadox, so I can't say that Zillaman98's idea was really smart.