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You undid my edit to the MV Mechagodzilla page, implying that the interview I cited as the source for the edit didn't actually support it. It does, in the very end of the inverview.

As you have already mentioned (as a reason to undo the edit for some reason), he stated that Godzilla's loss to Mechagodzilla in their beam struggle was likely influenced by him being tired from his fight with Kong and the beam to the Hollow Earth, and that he thinks things would might have played out differently if that hadn't happened.

What I stated in the edit was that he suggests the Atomic Breath Mechagodzilla's Proton Scream overpowered wasn't the same as the one used to drill into the Hollow Earth, which is exactly what his statement implies. Actually, flat out states. So, why exactly did you undo it again?

Adam doesn't suggest the opposite anywhere in the interview unless you're referring to when he says "Godzilla and Mechagodzilla fire their beams at each other at the same time right and Mechagodzilla’s actually overpowers Godzilla and I don’t think that that would have been the case if Godzilla’s coming in fresh but I think that he was weakened a bit." Which I don't see where in it he's suggesting the opposite.

That quote is suggesting that Godzilla's Atomic Breath was a bit weaker than when he used it to drill a hole into the Hollow Earth, which is the opposite of it being the same as what he used to drill into the Hollow Earth

Adam had also said in his reddit AMA that he hadn't seen anything from the novel.

And...? How does that have anything to do with this?

The novel states that the Atomic Breath Mechagodzilla overpowered was equivalent to the one that drilled a hole to the Hollow Earth, at least that's what your edit states. Adam Wingard heavily implied in the opposite in the interview with Toho Kingdom, so I made an edit that mentions that.

I still don't see what's wrong with the edit I made

What are the exact quotes where he heavily implies that it's a normal atomic breath. The issue is also that in the proton scream section it's already going off the assumption that the beam godzilla used was a normal beam so it doesn't need to be added.

You literally said the exact quote yourself:

"Godzilla and Mechagodzilla fire their beams at each other at the same time right and Mechagodzilla’s actually overpowers Godzilla and I don’t think that that would have been the case if Godzilla’s coming in fresh but I think that he was weakened a bit."

I don't see how the Proton Section section goes off the assumption it was a normal beam. It just states what the Proton Scream is, mentions some of its other feats, unrelated to Godzilla, and then brings up when it overpowered Godzilla's Atomic Breath, immediately mentioning that the novel stated it was the same Atomic Breath that reached the Hollow Earth.

The implication to anyone reading this is that the Proton Scream can overpower the Atomic Breath that reached the Hollow Earth, which, while it may be supported by the novel, isn't all there is to it, and there is reason to believe the opposite, which should be pointed out in the section.

That quote doesn't prove anything that's just another part of him saying that due to fighting Kong for three rounds he exercised his atomic breath to its absolute core so he's not at full strength in general during the MechaG fight.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE QUOTE PROVES.

Godzilla pushed his Atomic Breath too much when fighting Kong, so it was weaker when he fought Mechagodzilla.

To put it simply: the novelization says that the beam Godzilla used to dig to the Hollow Earth is the same as he used against Mechagodzilla. Adam Wingard said it was weaker, because of his fight against Kong. As should be apparent to anyone who can read, those 2 statements contradict eachother.

Wouldn't it just be implying that even though Godzilla used the same beam to drill into the hollow earth during the beam lock that due to being weakened from his fight with Kong that it still didn't prevail because he was weakened.

If it was weakened, then it wasn't the same. Unless by "same" you just mean that it's the same attack, as in, the Atomic Breath, which is just redundant

Why would the hollow earth beam be considered it's own thing, it's the Atomic Breath the only difference being that Godzilla charged it up for a couple more seconds.

I'm not saying that it was its own thing, I'm saying that it was different when it comes to power. It was stronger than the one Godzilla used against Mechagodzilla, which was weaker than normal. Your edit implied that, due to bad phrasing that made it seem as if you were talking about their power, as it was redundant to specify it was the same attack

Why did you remove the fact that the novelization says that it's the one Godzilla used to drill into the hollow earth.

Saying that it was the same attack as the one used to reach the Hollow Earth is redundant and all it does is potentially cause confusion and imply both uses of the Atomic Breath had the same power, which has been contradicted by Adam Wingard

In response to you undoing my edit again: The information in my edit might already be in another page, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be there too. The section is about the Proton Scream and what it can do, and the strength of the Atomic Breath it overpowered helps know how powerful the Proton Scream is and what it can do.

Either way, the stuff about the novelization still makes no sense to include.

We treat novelizations as AUs, so Wingard's statement is not actually contradictory, but I don't think the wording in the novelization is conclusive. It doesn't seem like the "Hollow Earth beam" is stronger than a typical blast of atomic breath, just longer in duration.

So does that mean what the novelization suggests stay up there or should it be removed?

I removed it.

Okay got it.