could someone get an actual infobox image for Gyaos from the show because i think my badly brightened image from the poster is no longer suitable, i would do it myself but the series picture quality is dogcrap and i don't know where to look, and i feel S-gyaos needs a better image too.
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Rebirth Gyaos infobox images
I just uploaded normal Gyaos; working on getting S-Gyaos.
imma be real with you the quality is awful, why did netflix botch the quality of streaming for this show
Sadly you essentially have to screenshot a high quality youtube video :/
i was also wondering are there any better images of Super, Hyper and 2006 gyaos anywhere i feel they could use an update too
About Sony’s current rights
Hey ABB, it’s been a while. First of all, I hope you’re in good health.
I’m just typing this comment so that you (or anyone else who sees this) could clarify Sony’s current rights on certain Godzilla films. I know that Keith Aiken said that Sony’s rights to GvKG and GvM were up for renewal back in 2019 (and it seems like they just let them lapse) so I’m just doing some checking on the other films.
I checked the SciFi Japan thread cited next to that statement from GvKG and GvM’s pages and from the looks of it: GvMGII, GvSG, GvD, GxM and GMK as well Rebirth of Mothra I & II are up for renewal this year, 2023 (I’m assuming before December 31st). The rest of Sony’s rights appear to elapse in 2025 (though they don’t give specific dates for GxM, Tokyo SOS or Final Wars).
Just wanted to double check and make sure that all this info is accurate.
I haven't heard anything to the contrary about the films up for renewal in 2023/2025. We do need to clarify that Sony hasn't let all their rights to King Ghidorah and Mothra lapse, however, as they're both on Pluto TV via Sony Pictures Television.
Interesting, so it’s more of Sony’s home video and digital rental rights that lapse but they still have some streaming/digital distribution rights?
I don't know all the specifics, but that seems to be the case.
A couple more questions about the US edits?
I just had some more questions I needed to ask you. First off are there any VHS tapes of Cosmic Monster that have the artwork next to the title card as shown here? Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla/Gallery#/media/File:Cosmic title US trailer wide.png as well as have the original ending title that says the name of the movie after it says the end as shown in H-Man's video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ2kNgsh01I
Also, which VHS release of Terror has the title card with, "Terror" in red and "of Mechagodzilla" in white? That's another thing I tried to look up but can't find anything specifically out about it and is there any way you could tell me if this VHS of Megalon is uncut or just the same Cinema Shares edit as all the other tapes? https://www.ebay.com/itm/285001804509?hash=item425b6e6add:g:p28AAOSwB51jSZ~F&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4ASQZfBBCIcr1hg%2BRQAxkb8%2Bvtqcwth7ohn7PtrO%2FwGqWX%2FrZqjMIL7tOTbuwHBqVbXaln7mZ0yND4WFIlLkXAenqQM4Sykwk1CtTpOcMgbPur2I4tnZCWaQUvzzXZpeJjCQzs%2BWlkzjidc5xrpmNHnpzp4z%2BFOQ9G9JSFHcC%2F%2BpbIPtw2qrqbFwSs6eNIv7Y0bvjWgDnyJ%2FdbKqRCB1fJKv9rvMskBYkle9p0MMJgriqVXx5Ueyu8J7skbeGwt1fuHWY0AxabhGWGWOPf%2BnSiMXzRw8M71Mbfj%2BdNuWyph3%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR97OmIrzYg
1) There's no known VHS release of the theatrical version of Godzilla vs. The Cosmic Monster; that image comes from a 35mm print.
2) No idea.
3) Any given Megalon tape is likely to be the Cinema Shares edit; I don't know of anyone who's gone through them all to check though.
Thanks a lot I really appreciate it! If you don't mind I just had one more question for you do any Godzilla vs. Megalon VHS releases include the Cinema Shares logo? I just discovered a VHS rip on internet archive of Godzilla vs. the Cosmic Monster and it has it, but when I go to look for Megalon on there I can't find it. I think the Family Tymes Canadian release of Godzilla on Monster Island also includes it. I'll have to go check it and I don't think some of the tapes I have already include it for Megalon for some odd reason.
Afraid I don't know that either.
Ion Dragon creation
Since the Ion Dragon's page's development section needed to be reworked, I tried to rewrite it and I used ChatGPT to improve some sentences. I wasn't aware that usage of the A.I. was not allowed on the wiki until Zillaman98 brought it up, so is this alright?
There's no way for us to truly police it, but we do ask that you not use AI for your edits.
@Astounding Beyond Belief i see it was added back what should be done about it then? I dont want to edit war and im not sure what to do.
I've removed it; will revise the section later.
Thanks, sorry for the trouble if any.
Addressing the MV confusion
I was wondering if there should be an entire separate page or a written expansion in the Godzilla film continuities page dedicated to compiling all of our knowledge regarding the current "confirmed canon" and all of the contradictions and "unkown/soft canon" in the Monsterverse. Or should this be individually addressed on each of the necessary pages, like what you just added to the Awakening page and what (as I understand it) the MV history tests sandbox is trying to formulate?
I think a lengthier explanation on the List of Godzilla film continuities page would be helpful, yeah. Those little notes we have aren't quite up to the task at this point.
Now that Mlom largely retcons awakening how should this be addressed on godzillas page?
I've been sketching out a way to restructure Monsterverse history sections to account for non-canon stuff, the multiple mediums in the canon, and the constant jumping around in time. This would bring these pages closer to how other major wikis handle histories (here's Wookieepedia's Luke Skywalker page as an example). Input welcome: https://wikizilla.org/wiki/User:Astounding_Beyond_Belief/Sandbox/Monsterverse_history_tests
Shinomura def seems to be no longer canon, but what about the origins section?
I would replace the Godzilla: Awakening page in that section with something else, definitely. Is there anything else in that section you think should be changed?
i was talking in reference to the actual godzilla page not sandbox btw
Not sure yet i haven't looked over it.
wait i meant to say i was talking about the actual godzilla page
Why is JLvsGvsK in the non-canon section? Is there any official source saying so? Also, episode 3 could be interpreted as instances where the army tried to kill Godzilla before Shinomura emerged.
its painfully obvious JLvsGvK isn't canon.
How is it "painfully abvious"? We can't just say that it's non-canon simply because you view it like that. It's like the Mantleclaw situation; while I definitely agree that the Mantleclaw is way too small to be considered a Titan, we shouldn't contradict what the producers say because we don't share the same opinion.
Because I'm pretty positive that it would be mentioned that godzilla and coe suddenly vanish from the face of the earth for a while, and the fact the premise alone would contradict Godzilla Vs. Kong as being the first encounter between the two and wouldn't make any sense for the two to fight again as they seemed to come to an understanding by the end of that film, and nothing has come out to even suggest it is canon.
So far, the two haven't encountered each other in the comic (yet), and GvsK is only the fist on-screen instance of the two interacting; it isn't known if they've met before or not. It's been suggested that GvsK isn't the first time they've seen each other since Ilene says that Godzilla will come for Kong if he leaves his outpost. I don't see why Godzilla would randomly attack a Titan he's never met, and Kong also seems to be familiar with Godzilla during their Tasman Sea battle. Plus, all of the events in the comic so far have taken place only in the world of DC and Skull Island, and Monarch doesn't have eyes on Godzilla 24/7, so it would make sense if he disappeared just for a day and it wouldn't be mentioned in future Monsterverse installments, and even if that didn't happen, there wouldn't really be any reason to since it's all in the past. And I'm positive that once the seventh issue is out, Monarch will making an appearance wondering why Godzilla and a couple of other Titans mysteriously vanished for a while.
I don't want this to turn into a lengthy debate on whether JLvsGvsK is canon or not, so I'll stop here. My point is, it shouldn't be treated as non-canon as long as neither Legendary nor DC state otherwise.
this topic was specifically for awakening.
There is nothing that suggest the two ever met before, Godzilla attacked kong because he was another alpha and was already aggravated by Mechagodzilla
and Nothing indicates Kong was at all familiar with Godzilla.
The admins are treating this as non-canon because and we need to respect that.
Well, they shouldn't. It's still just a sandbox, so there's still room for discussion. And Kong has already seen cave paintings of Godzilla before in Kingdom Kong, so yeah, he is familiar with him.
Those literally are just two members of the same species, nothing indicates it's them, nor does it make sense to be kong as he was born in the 17th century
I'm aware of that. My apologies, what I should have said is that Kong is at least familiar with Godzilla's species, not Godzilla. Even if he wasn't outright familiar with Godzilla himself, he'd still recognize his body shape from the cave paintings in Skull Island.
He canonically has seen a mural of godzilla in kimgdom kong
That's what I was talking about.
I was going off this Entertainment Weekly article when I labeled the comic non-canon, although you could easily argue the passage was just talking about the DC side of things. Based on the comic alone, it could go either way. All the Titans in the comic would have been on the board, so to speak, in the time between KOTM and the GvK graphic novels. But something could easily happen in later issues that's difficult-to-impossible to reconcile with that (like Godzilla and Kong teaming up).
Lucy Casprell Sandbox
I believe this sandbox is about all set to be posted on the site proper. Just wanted to double check and make sure it's all good to go!
I gave it a pass, but you didn't leave me much to do - well done!
Thank you very much! :) For future reference – I intend on making four or five more ROE character pages, and maybe even a few for other comics after that. Would you prefer I let you know when each sandbox is finished or would it be alright to just move them myself once they're done?
Moving them yourself is fine.
Cool, will do.
On a semi-related note - I'd like to add details concerning the new Rulers of Earth mini comic "Thinking On Our Feet" to the site, but I don't quite know how to go about doing so since it's likely not enough to get its own page. So I guess my question is, would it be alright to treat it akin to the Monsterverse comic "Fight or Flight" in that I could make a page called "Godzilla: Rulers of Earth ReMonstered Edition Volume 1" (or, alternatively, a single page for both volumes of the "ReMonstered Edition"), and give the short a section on that page? Other reprints with no new content get their own pages here anyways so I think it's fair game, but I leave the final decision to you guys.
Yeah, using Legends of the Monsterverse: The Omnibus as a template makes sense.
Here's the page; I figured it'd be best to combine both volumes into a single article, as there's really no reason to give each one its own page. (Also of note - wasn't sure whether or not to call it "Remonstered" or "ReMonstered", but Matt used a capital M in his posts so that's what I went with.) Hope this will suffice!
Figured I'd double check quick before publishing it - for Kenji Ando's page, would "Kenji Ando (comics)" suffice for the page name? Probably the best/simplest disambiguation term.
Yeah, since he was in multiple comics, that's the best option. I'd also edit the existing Kenji Ando page to include a link to the new page on top.
Are we sure we should literally take EW calling it a crab literally and we sure its not a conjectural descriptor of what it looks like physically? Its certainly got very un-crab like characteristics like an actual pair of hands and pupil eyes. It just might be wiser and maybe wait to see if they get a species profile.
Im also skeptical of they really are titans btw.
The Mantleclaw is a pretty small Titan, to be sure, but we can't countermand a direct quote from the episode writer/executive producer of the show with "the vibes are off." He also calls the Mantleclaw "a giant Titan version of a crab," which in combination with the rest of the article is good enough for me. I don't think it's a big deal either way - but given that we're talking about a television monster, excluding it from a list of Skull Island arthropods is excessive.
He could of been using titan as a descriptor of size?
But i don't think it matters too much until we get a canon species profile or more info,
But this reminds me Didn't someone who worked on the Mutos call them a mammal?, yet last i checked we didn't put them in that category?
Him using Titan non-literally is your assumption; not good enough.
I think calling the MUTOs mammals is fine (if utterly wild) so long as it's not contradicted by an in-universe source.
I don't think anything has contradicted it yet to my knowledge, i cant remember where it was mentioned but i think it was in one of the behind the scenes special features from Godzilla 2014?
It's from Guillaume Rocheron in Godzilla: The Art of Destruction. I forgot that he wasn't the VFX supervisor of the entire movie though, just for MPC, which might be why we just quote him (in the Design section) instead of calling the MUTOs mammals ourselves. Or it's category neglect lol
I swear i recall seeing a clip that kinda said the same thing.
yes the mantleclaw has a weird actual clawed hand attached to the same limb its crab pincers are on, its kinda similar to how muto prime has limbs coming out of other limbs
i hate that it has thumbs
the monsterverse is just getting anatomically weirder with it's monsters with each entry.
also, why is it classified as a titan? isn't it supposed to be a superspecies?
the entertainment weakly article and showrunners for some reason called it that, i imagine the actual profile or whatever will correct that
The show creators appear to have a lot of respect for the MV, but I feel like things such as the Lawton suggest that not everything lines up perfectly. It probably should just be a superspecies, but the show's creators may simply know the monsters as all fitting under the "Titan" descriptor, since superspecies is (to my knowledge) almost entirely used in other media outside of the films, whereas the films don't describe the smaller monsters and then call the large creatures Titans.
thats my guess, future information probably will correct it.
So uhh aparantly the image description of this tweet calls the MotherLonglegs a titan.
weird, i really don't like how the smaller creatures are being called "titans"
To me that's roughly the equivalent to an audio description, and we've had huge problems with the reliability of those in the past. It can be noted in the page's trivia, but I don't think anything more than that is needed. The Kong: Skull Island Cinematic Adventure doesn't call it a Titan, and that's a much more authoritative source.
speaking of cinematic adventure, i wanted to add some of the info that was still missing from those to the respective pages but a certain persons twitter account who posted those images got deleted and are lost now, is there any way i can read some of the information from it without coughing up some cash?
Doubt it, stuff like that doesn't really get pirated.
do you not have access to it or can post any of the profiles from it? i recall the butterfly bush being described more physically and wanted to update it's page, plus the Shocker Squid still has no page yet and is in sandbox.
Sure, I just don't care to. Evil Genius is a small company; spend the twenty bucks on their product if you want it.
but i didn't want to cough anything up and just wanted to updated the respective stuff tho ._.
It's well worth the money; there's plenty of lore in there beyond the bios that we haven't had the chance to incorporate on the site yet.
Can we just ban User:VaderForVa? They have not made a single edit to any page, so they're obviously not here to build an encyclopedia. They don't do anything except complain about the Monsterverse and its fans. And they literally admitted to being proud of bullying kids. To be completely honest with you, I think they're a troll account.
We'd have to ban a lot of people if we outlawed posting a lot of comments without editing. I find relentlessly negative people in fandom tiresome myself, but you're not obligated to give them attention (and with cartoonish statements like that, this person is obviously fishing for it).
Yeah, you're right. Sorry, I was just a bit worked up over that incredibly bold statement they made last night. :-\
it's clear why he is here if you ask me.
Can something be done? it really is getting very overbearing
Yeah, stop obsessing over what movies this completely random person doesn't like.
So sorry to bother you again.
I found these tweets on X about the design of Zigra in Rebirth. Do you think these are inappropriate to add to trivia? https://twitter.com/14_kaiju/status/1715910784901906608
Sure, though it's fine to only reference the second one, since it's older.
No clue if it was intentional but the Resemblance is pretty uncanny.
Thank you for agreement zillaman.
Weirdly enough the same guy behind that was the same guy who wanted to make that 2006 gamera anime pitch too
That's actually a cool point, thanks a lot!
Also might be worth pointing out Zigra and that character both travel at very high speeds underwater as well and shoot projectile attacks as a main attack.
Wow, thanks so much, this is getting more cool than I expected. Thanks Zillaman!
Worth mentioning Yonetani has a twitter account, so maybe someone could ask if that design of Aqua was based on Zigra.
True. I've talked with Astounding Beyond Belief about Viras's insanity beam and I suggested to create a X account. Maybe I can also ask Yonetani about this, too. Thanks for suggestion.
From what i checked he seems to be a kaiju fan, also link to the account btw. https://twitter.com/yonetanikantoku?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Yeah I will ask him when I create an account.
By the way, guys, I also wonder if Stardust Dragon and its evolved forms from Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's is worth mentioning.
Stardust Dragon is the protagonist monster of the anime, and Gamera's voice effect was actually used for Stardust Dragon on several occasions, and Stardust Dragon was designed after goblin shark just like Zigra, and Zigra in Rebirth became more "dragon-like" design in general.
Sorry, I will be off for now. It's 3AM here.
I don't think theres really a zigra connection besides being based on the same animal, but if it used Gamera roars that can be mentioned.
I see, thanks anyway.