User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief

Astounding Beyond Belief

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

Hey,

I saw the Godzilla popular culture article on here and I have a question for you in regards to that. I don't know if you or any of the other fans on here are aware of this or not but in 2021, the Italian-Australian twin pop duo The Veronicas had released a song that was named after him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEFaHMAzcIA and they also named their fourth album that year after him as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_(The_Veronicas_album)

With that in mind oddly enough I never heard the fandom really talking about those references not just on Wikizilla mind you but on any site that has to do with Godzilla where he is referenced including the Wikipedia article itself. Anyways, could you please let me know if this counts so I can add it?

Sure, that's fine.

Hey ABB, sorry to bother you but I was wondering if might be able to help me with something. a few months back I stumbled upon the "I Am Garoga" song page and saw that it didn't have an English translated lyric part, so decided to do it myself. The problem is, I have a feeling it didn't translate the song accurately enough and it looks really weird looking at it. Maybe you'll have a better shot at it, I'm not sure. and sorry if this isn't something you're able to fix btw, I'm just asking you cause you've helped with issues regarding stuff prior.

That's a Les question, I'm not at all proficient in Japanese.

apologies for wasting your time then, thank you for letting me know who to ask though

I found this article from the Los Angeles Times mentioning the lawsuit over Godzilla vs. Biollante. Interestingly, it even mentions that Miramax could’ve distributed the film in Canada, Ireland and the UK (funny, considering we never got it).

Here’s the link.

Do you think it’s good enough to use as a citation?

It's certainly a good source, but doesn't cover some of the specify claims made in our article (that negotiations started in early 1990, that an oral agreement was made in June). That paragraph also appears to be plagiarized from Wikipedia, although it would be worth checking the histories of the two pages to see if they actually swiped it from us.

I understand. I can go check on the plagiarism thing in the meantime, that is if you haven’t already.

After doing a little checking, the first mention of the lawsuit on Wikipedia appears to have been added at 22:45, 7 December 2012 under a now removed section called “Development (USA)”. The original edit on there was pretty much a copy and paste of the L.A. Article without sourcing it. The section looks to have been removed and re-added quite a few times before it merged with the “English version” section.

As for Wikizilla, I’m only able to go as far back as 03:31, 20 August 2016. By then, the paragraph had already been added (including the claim that Omni did the dub for the film). By this point, the Wikipedia section practically had the same paragraph, earlier revisions from 2014 and 2015 seem to have used the same paragraph regarding the lawsuit as well.

Also, turns out that Japan's Favorite Mon-Star also mentions the lawsuit under the section “Godzilla vs. Miramax”, this seems to be where the references to early 1990 and the oral agreement come from. Might want to use that as a source too.

You could check the equivalent article on Gojipedia if you really wanted to be thorough - but if it's that old, safe to say it originally came from Wikipedia.

Gojipeida seems to have first added a section about the lawsuit at 01:14, 27 May 2014, it is a near identical copy of the paragraph being used on Wikipedia at the time. The Wikipedia paragraph did indeed exist beforehand as it is seen on a revision made at 06:43, 12 May 2014, a few days earlier than when it was first added to Gojipedia.

On a completely unrelated note, I noticed that Chris McFeely (who’s more known for his stuff on Transformers) also contributed to the Wikipedia page. As someone who watches his videos, I found this pretty neat. No idea why I’m telling you this but here we are.

Pretty funny how my question about using a potential source for one of the pages became us talking about plagiarism and me checking the histories of 3 different sites to see who took from who.

Not complaining though, I actually quite enjoyed researching it.

Title pretty much sums up my thoughts. I could never say it’s finished, since all the pages here get updated by different editors, though I’m satisfied with how it looks right now. I can’t really think of anything to add to it, maybe I can add something about TITRAFILM if there’s a 100% connection between the two companies but thats about, perhaps I can find the dubbing credits from Magic Serpent and Smog Monster too just to finish the gallery.

If you have any suggestions or think it needs a bit more time, just let me know. Thanks.

Agreed, it's quite robust. Promoted!

Thanks ABB.

Hi ABB! I was curious about the -zilla page's method of organization, since I wanted to make sure I added entries in a manner that followed it. It did not seem to follow alphabetical order or order of release. Which order would it use?

I don't think they're in any order. Release order would be ideal - look to the Godzilla's roar page for the format.

Got it👍 Should I start organizing them?

Certainly!

Awesome!

Hey Astounding,

I'm interested in trying to get 35mm prints of Destroy all Monsters, Godzilla on Monster Island, Godzilla vs. Megalon and Godzilla vs. the Cosmic Monster at my local theatre which is in Seattle. I would like something similar to what was done in Portland back in 2019. https://www.scifijapan.com/godzilla-toho/35mm-prints-of-classic-godzilla-films-to-screen-in-portland-or

Any thoughts on how fans are able to make this kind of thing happen?

If you don't own such prints yourself, the best you can do is to get in touch with your theater and make the request. Frankly, you've missed the best opening that's going to come along for a while (the 70th anniversary), but I've seen a general uptick in revival screenings of Showa Godzilla movies since Criterion licensed them.

We now have King Kong and Gamera in popular culture pages.

Lately, I noticed that the page "Godzilla in popular culture" no longer pertains to just Godzilla. For example, Gamera has numerous entries that do not involve Godzilla, as does Kong.

As an alternative, could the page simply be renamed to "Kaiju in popular culture"? Obviously, the page would still redirect from "Godzilla in popular culture".

I made a acount but I need to upload information photos how can I do that?

It seems like you already did back in May? You can either click the Upload file button under the Tools heading on the left side of the screen, or the arrow pointing up inside a circle while editing a page.

Hey ABB!

I was considering making pages for the Atlantic Ocean and the Arctic Ocean, though I am not sure about how to go about it. The Pacific Ocean page lists locations within the Pacific, though I do not think I could make quite an extensive list of locations for either the Atlantic or the Arctic. Would it be better that I list events that occurred surrounding them?

If you can think of any locations, that "Geographic points" section should still be used. All of these pages should have some sort of History section though, although the Pacific in particular would lend itself to extremely brief summaries.

Got it. Thank you!

Hi, That McDonald's Chicken Big Mac ad takes up the whole top of the screen on iPad, and both blocks the search function (plus all navigation buttons) and is unable to be dismissed. Is there anything you're able to do about this or anyone to report this to? Honestly, I wouldn't mind if it was just smaller at the bottom, as it is now it’s invasive and makes the wiki unnavigable. No worries if you can't, just figured it wouldn’t hurt to ask. Thank you!