User talk:Les

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Les/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

hey Les, I've gotten back to reading the Godzilla dark horse run and had a question for you. I'm on issue 9 right now and I got to this part, and I'm not sure if its just a fictional location or if it was intended to be Ellesmere island. posting a screenshot of it rn

I've just left it without a link, which I think is the safest thing to do. I did find that there is a sound off Ellesmere Island called Smith Sound which is seemingly what Frederick Cook referred to as "Ellesmere Sound" in his account of reaching the North Pole, and that another body of water, Van Keulenfjorden, was named Lord Ellesmere Sound in the 17th century. But what the Dark Horse writers intended we can't be sure.

gotcha, I just didn't want to add it to the page without knowing exactly what the intent of it being was, but if its just unclear I think leaving it without a link is the correct choice

Hello, I would like to request a comment to be deleted on the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms page that I made on my old account, Gigantissucksgodzillarules455. I think it was very disrespectful and messed up that I don't want to mention it. I just want it removed because I regret writing it during my "edgy" days 3 or 4 years back and I want to make up for my past actions. I'm sorry I wrote this comment. I am not asking for forgiveness, I just want to move on. Please and thank you. I know this isn't enough for an "apology" but I want to take responsibility for my past misdeeds. If you want to ban me, then please feel free to do so.

Sure thing. For the record, I didn't think it was that bad.

Thank you, like I said, I just want to take responsibility.

You can clearly hear the roar faintly when the dedication comes up https://youtu.be/t2UCSFIFqfE?si=F0TpjIRNqOdiR3i9

I'm not denying the roar is there, my point is that it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Banno/Nakajima tribute. Like I said, it's the very end of the credits as well as the end of McCreary's Godzilla theme, and trails off with the screen fading out. It sounds to me like the roar is just a little Easter egg to signify the movie's over. What even would be the connection between a 1954 roar and Banno, anyway?

I just wanted to add Godzilla’s roar being played in the credits

That would be fine as a separate bullet point. Putting it with the dedication mention makes it sound like we're claiming a relation.

I now added the bullet point

Should the Locations template include video games? Not just for the inclusion of the general JP / US cities, but also of the occasional place that isn't that.

Also how come no flags? Sorry for bombarding the wiki with them, but Im just curious for the reason.

I think the locations template just kinda sucks in general and needs an update like the vehicles one.

If a large number of changes is required, I recommend ordering the locations in each section by alphabetical order. Organizing these cities and especially landmarks becomes much easier

The flags were, more than anything, a formatting nightmare. I agree that the Locations template needs an overhaul though; sorting by eras leads to a ton of redundancies. Coincidentally, staff have been working on a scope for locations which we should be ready to introduce soon...

Fair, the flags did look horrible on the page itself.

Also re:flags, we already have the template {{Flag}} which is loaded with world flags. An idea I had to make use of them was to create a country infobox that could include the flag in the corner or something, like the trademark icons on the kaiju infobox.

I would like to make a sandbox page for a proposal for this infobox, if it is okay

That's fine.

I'm starting to go through the new location pages, and while I think it's great that we're filling in the world, some of them have tense issues and glaring typos that should have been caught before they were promoted from sandboxes. This isn't a race; please don't rush.

Apologies. I'll re-visit them again and correct the mistakes.

Also, while it's fine to derive location summaries from existing story summaries, simply copying them over can result in excessive detail, e.g. the Godzilla Rivals: Mothra Vs. Hedorah section of the Iceland page.

More errors abounded on the Spain page. Please take note of the feedback I left.

Should I delete all map appearances that Ive counted for other countries then?

Yes, please. Things particularly interesting (like the Monarch bases) can be moved to trivia though.

Hey Les, I was told to redirect this question towards you so I figured I'd give it a shot. I was wondering if might be able to help me with something. a few months back I stumbled upon the "I Am Garoga" song page and saw that it didn't have an English translated lyric part, so decided to do it myself. The problem is, I have a feeling it didn't translate the song accurately enough and it looks really weird looking at it. what I'm hoping is that you might be able to do that it doesn't look wonky anymore

minor bump

bump again

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1. To get it off my chest right away, it feels wrong to deem the people as “Hispanic Skull Islanders.” Seems too racial and might raise some red flags.
2. The sword the main trio discover in “Breakfast fit for a Kong” has certain characteristics that align with the qualities of the swords used by Conquistadors from the Age of Exploration. The gold-tint, the design itself, and the fact that it displayed obvious evidence of aging. The connection puts itself together granted some research into history is done.
3. Historically speaking, Conquistadors were mostly from what is modern-day Spain and Portugal. The language they would’ve brought wherever they went was Spanish, the very language that the Island Girl spook to Kong with. The Conquistadors explored and mapped everywhere in the world outside of European knowledge, including the South Pacific Ocean. There are certain routes that you can look up that intercept the area where the Monsterverse Skull Island is located.

in what way is "Hispanic" racial and red flag raising

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Forgive me. Race and Ethnicity are NOT the same thing. A very bad misconception on my part…..

"Hispanic" is a Wikipedia page, and there's no indication of it being a sensitive term on Wiktionary. I cannot see the problem with this.

“Ferdinand Magellan, originally of Portugal, was commissioned by Spain to forge a route to the East Indies, which is today known as Southeast Asia. Although Magellan died during his voyage in the Philippines in 1521, his ship and crew made the first circumnavigation of Earth, meaning a complete trip around the world.”

- https://www.studentsofhistory.com/routes-of-famous-european-explorers?srsltid=AfmBOooMJskaWghavItJOkvI7J6VbPACcS51NInVeSjc8Ukb3dcV1iKB

A little something I found that upholds what I know. The facts check out enough that I had proclaimed the Island Girl and her people “Iberian” Skull Islanders for such reasons.

You took no notes from this conversation the other week, I take it.

You're once again overanalyzing minute details and running with whatever conclusion you draw from them as if it's unassailable. My understanding is that the absolute most we know about these islanders (from tweets and not even the show itself, mind you) is that the girl had ancestors who spoke Spanish and landed on Skull Island. You have entirely invented the notion that they were from the Iberian Peninsula, they came during the 16th century, and that they were sailing for colonization. What if the girl is only a few generations removed from them? Hell, even if they came 200 years ago that would still be too late to qualify as conquistadors. Or what if we said they did come in the 16th century, but they were from non-peninsular Spain or Andorra or Gibraltar, and therefore not "Iberian"?

You're making a series of extremely specific claims that are very easily dismantled without further evidence beyond, from what I gather: "there's a gold sword".

You’re raising continuous good points. I have not forgotten what I said 2 weeks ago. I did say that I would do my best. I’m trying.

I want to believe that, but I've yet to see it. Also, what you actually said in that thread was "I'm still gonna try my best to avoid expunging ... head-canon", i.e. you're not gonna stop. I assume that was a typo, but so far it seems more honest.

Considering that a lot of articles are being made for the Big 5 (plus Anguirus) for their comic incarnations, do you think it's valid for some other monsters to have separate articles in that same fashion? E.g. Gigan, Hedorah, Manda, Battra, Kumonga, etc. They may not have a decent number in their film / television appearances, but adding the print material versions should result in a decently large number too.

We built into the Scope that only Godzilla, King Kong, Gamera, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla, Rodan, Anguirus, and Gyaos qualify for incarnation pages. Maybe it would be better to come up with criteria that future monsters can satisfy instead of just declaring the ones we decide, but I do think it could easily get excessive very quick. A page like Kumonga does not strike me as being so lengthy it needs to be split up. Generally comic incarnations do not differ significantly from their movie versions in terms of powers and behavior, and though different artists may reinterpret their designs, they're always recognizable enough that differences need not take more than a few sentences to explain. At the end of the day the pages we make should have some kind of utility, and I feel like having half the Toho pantheon split across a dozen+ pages apiece crosses into being less useful than more.

Why gyaos is said her (like the heisei version) while zilla aren't why we don't say them/he or she/them/he also les gamera get joke upon what you think about his power

The Gyaos (Heisei Trilogy) article always refers to them with it/its, not she/her, so I'm not sure what you mean. The TriStar Godzilla is always called he/him in his movie, just a "very unusual he" because of his asexual reproduction. I can't parse what you're asking me about Gamera.

i mean like some people and if I hear the super gyaos in the gamera video get say her also google Gemini say zilla and gyaos a her (but I know it drink something bad

Like wrong data

Hi Les, I want to change my name to EnnEmmEee since that's now my default online username and I want my presence on this site that to reflect that.

Thanks in advance

Done

Until just now, I thought we were debating over Sumiko Ota being played by Sakura Ando for Godzilla Minus One, not Godzilla Minus Zero.

I’m embarrassed and sorry for the trouble.