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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Les/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Since the Godzilla DLC for GigaBash is now available, should pages on the original Kaiju from the game be published, or should only the Toho Kaijus' pages be updated? If it is the former, the first complete (or nearly so) page is located 3rd from the bottom of this sandbox: User:Zillaman98/Sandbox/Misc Mons and Films.#Rawa

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

last time i asked he said they probably would cover it if Godzilla was playable

idk if thats changed.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I wanted to make sure before creating new pages that someone may have to just come back and delete.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

rawa still needs polish i think

Is Titanic Creations relevant enough for a page?

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Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

I made a sandbox for the company because of the new Ogra figure, but Zillaman has marked it for deletion. Opinions on the subject would be most appreciated.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

No its not, with the exception of a single Gorgo figure (which isn't enough to justify an entire page in my opinion), they are not relevant to what's covered on sites scope Kaiju=/=Coverage

this might change with the Graphic novel or the animated film if it manifest and depending on how involved they are in it.

Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

Let's just leave this to the mods, your opinion doesn't determine wether or not a page gets made.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

you just asked for opinions. if you didn't want any why make this?

Les (talkcontribs)

On my wall - which you decided to butt in to.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

this is a public post where anyone can chime in though.

Les (talkcontribs)

Sure, you're allowed to. But surely you realize when someone is directing a post at me, they're not looking for your input.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i actually forgot this was on you're wall sorry

Les (talkcontribs)

With a figure, a graphic novel, and a potential movie, the sandbox is worth keeping around. Don't think the other figures need to be mentioned though.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

The Movie Monster series page features the Netflix Anime Ultraman, Kamen Rider Black Sun and worst anime franchise for some reason though.

Movie Monster Series#2023


Why is this allowed if the Toymakers Original Kaiju are not?

Les (talkcontribs)

This page would be about the company in general, so I think it makes more sense to be selective.

The Movie Monster Series page is about a specific toyline, so neglecting certain figures would make it incomplete.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

EDIT didnt see the new post


that makes sense

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Should the potential movie get a page right now actually?


i already added the graphic novel under my sandbox

Les (talkcontribs)

I'd like to see more about it. The comic sounded like more of a sure thing.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

fix the reply button it doesnt work unless you post a comment afterwards

Les (talkcontribs)

There's nothing wrong with it, you just don't know how to use it. If you're replying to something directly above, you're just meant to continue the thread.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

dumb question but can gorgo/ogra get its own era icon now?

it has multiple comics now and has a new graphic novel coming so its appeared in a fair bit of media to warrant it i feel


also should dopepope himself get a page? the guys worked on several official stuff now including X plus figures

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i also forgot to mention it seems the original kaiju Griffixis is clearly a homage to The Gryphon

its description is really similar to how the Gryphon would of worked should this be triva?

Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

I agree to all of those suggestions, if dopepope is allowed to have a page I'd be glad to help out.

Les (talkcontribs)

He's doing this and he designed Tiamat for Dominion - what were his other contributions?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Les (talkcontribs)

Probably deserves one then, yeah.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

Intriguing...

Les (talkcontribs)

Hm, well we don't have comic rules sorted out, but we might not be able to cover Soul War unless Gorgo appears in it. It's hard to implement an "exists in the same universe" rule when Godzilla exists in the Marvel Universe. We didn't use Reptisaurus appearing in Charlton's Gorgo as a reason to cover Reptisaurus the Terrible, after all.

If any of those original monsters appear in their Gorgo graphic novel then they can probably have pages, though.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

id make an argument that since apparently this comic will be a sequel to the Original film that Retroactively makes these Kaiju canon to Gorgos Lore and i argue that the basis for the Soul War lore seems heavily inspired by japanese kaiju, Titanicus itself seems to be an obvious Godzilla Expy


Hero Zero which didn't debut in a Godzilla Comic still has a page as well i personally think pages exclusively selected over interactions with kaiju we cover should allow certain comic characters to be covered but obviously just those relating to interactions with the Characters we cover.

Les (talkcontribs)

Hero Zero has a page because he appears in a Godzilla comic. If he wasn't directly in any Godzilla media he wouldn't have a page, even if there was a Godzilla comic set in the same universe. I think the only way we can keep things consistent is by only making a page for these monsters if they directly appear in the Gorgo comic.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i didnt realize what you was saying at first but i have to ask now


so that makes me have to ask is there any reason we don't got Pages For Dragonzord, Megazord as they appear in the Godzilla comic or any Marvel character under the pretense of it being a selected appearance specifically with their history with Godzilla much like Hero Zero?

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, but these situations are not comparable. Regardless of where Hero Zero debuted, he's in a Godzilla comic.

These monsters might be in a comic that's canon to the Gorgo comic, but if they're not directly in the Gorgo comic, they shouldn't be covered.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

How is those not comparable? if that's the case shouldn't other characters that interacted with Godzilla in comics get pages that specifically cover their interactions with Godzilla because that seems to be the Pretense on why Hero Zero even has a page because he sure isn't a Godzilla Original.


EDIT disregard all that

Les (talkcontribs)

About Marvel and Power Rangers: I think it just came down to the availability of other wikis. RangerWiki is our affiliate, and there's a robust Marvel Wiki. We kept things like Red Ronin and Dr. Demonicus though, because they debuted in the Godzilla comic.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Do any of the Marvel/Ranger character/monster pages even cover the Godzilla specific interactions any at all?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Looking at the Dragonzord page it doesn't seem to mention its comic interactions with Godzilla at all (or any of its comics history for that matter but that's their issue)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

List of Godzilla characters edit

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

What's wrong with the reference to Ultraman in this thread?

Les (talkcontribs)
Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Okay, thanks.

Also, question: is the April Fool's Day 2022 short titled Godzilla vs. the Tigers or Godzilla vs. the Hanshin Tigers?

Les (talkcontribs)

Godzilla vs. the Tigers

Godzilla (GVSGR) why..?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

what's wrong with it?

why are the Gigan pages ok but not this one?

Les (talkcontribs)

We hadn't discussed it before ABB okayed it. I don't agree with it. I would rather the short film incarnations go to one list page, but we're talking it over.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

What's the year we should put on the Video games list? The year it was release? The year the character was added?

Roblox was release in 2006, but it had Godzilla related stuff in 2019, so the lists states "Roblox (2019)"

But some lists states "Godzilla Battle Line (2021)" for monsters that were only added in 2022.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'd say the latter.

Kiryu Series edits

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Les, "Kiryu Series" is written with a capital 'S" everywhere else on here, so can I please put it back onGXMG, the way it's supposed to be?

Godzilla (comics) Wikipedia article correction

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Les, I like to ask you a favor.

The Wikipedia article "Godzilla (comics)" has one mistake in it: in the section "Collected U.S. editions", it lists Godzilla: Monsters and Protectors - Rise Up! as "..., original graphic novel,..." when it should say "..., collects Godzilla: Monsters & Protectors #1-5,...". Could you please fix this since I can't? Thanks!

Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Les, did you even look at this? Can you please help me out with this?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Everything here from what i see puts the The King Kong show under showa, why remove it from the pteranodon?

Les (talkcontribs)

Hmm. It was animated by a Japanese studio, but its primary region was America. I guess it depends what factor we're going by.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Why does the shows page include it under the Showa Era then?

Les (talkcontribs)

The King of the Monsters and I had a chat about it, and I think we agreed to consider something Japanese for these purposes if it has a Japanese financier (The Kong Show does not)

Godzilla article edits

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Les, I've seen Ebirah, Horror of the Deep dozens of times. It was one of the Red Bamboo's scientists that turned on the self-destruct device, not Godzilla. Look at the article on the film and see for yourself.

And what's wrong with the other three? They seem to be harmless. For example, calling them "Red Bamboo" instead of "the Red Bamboo" is just wrong. Whoever wrote that sentence, I think, didn't do it right and I'm just trying to make it right. "[B]urst out" seems to be all right, too, and the island was destroyed in a nuclear explosion.

Les (talkcontribs)

The sentence is written fine as it is. Pedantically adding a second "the" in the sentence just makes it sound worse. The organization is not called "The Red Bamboo", it's called the "Red Bamboo". Saying "the terrorist organization [called] Red Bamboo" is perfectly grammatically correct.

Mill Creek edits

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

I see you changed some things around. That's good; makes it more readable.

Did I get the Ultra Series side stories right; i.e., were they all done direct-to-video?