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New Godziban episode

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Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

The ORCA page

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JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Thank you so much for clearing up my fledgling ORCA page. I was going to do it myself, but I very much appreciate the help. :)

Lamango (talkcontribs)

I just find it BS, Les. You literally have a page for Dragon Ball which has the same 'offense' as the 'split second cameos' of the movie (though a total of 14 minutes is dedicated to toho kaiju and aliens in the cultural festival), I find it unfair.

Les (talkcontribs)

Honestly the Dragon Ball page could be absorbed into the pop culture page, too. The difference being that there are numerous Godzilla and Gamera references across the Dragon Ball franchise, while Urusei Yatsura 2 is a single movie which can just as easily be summarized under the list page and be done with. Nobody is ever going to write a summary for this movie or make pages for the staff and cast or make pages for the characters.

The monsters' appearances are cameos. Compiling such cameos is the entire point of Godzilla in popular culture's existence. An entire page for that movie, which is almost completely irrelevant to this website, is unnecessary. The other admins agree and our decision on this is final.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

OK, that I can see, that point, the single movie thing. Sorry if came off sounding like I was throwing a temper tantrum. Maybe we could like, make the movie poster on the reference page and link the UY wiki? They have a complete list of the cameos and cast and active pages?

Les (talkcontribs)

We aren't affiliated with the UY wiki, but I guess there's no harm in linking to them. Feel free to carry over the information to a section on that page.

Lamango (talkcontribs)
Les (talkcontribs)

In its section on the pop culture page, you can use the Main template to link to them for further reading:
{{Main|w:c:wikia:uruseiyatsura:Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer}}

Lamango (talkcontribs)

But it OK I linked to this wiki's pages?

Les (talkcontribs)

Yeah it's fine. Other various wikis are linked on other pages

Lamango (talkcontribs)

I also just added a majority of the chaos of the opening in the gallery for the page , that's what I'm getting at tbh, it was just...Toho plastered everywhere. Lol

Rope (talkcontribs)

Aftershock iS a godzilla comic that came out this year in may

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, but... do you understand the point of this page?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I thought I did

Les (talkcontribs)

It's to compile references and appearances of Godzilla in non-Godzilla related media. Like Godzilla being mentioned in Garfield, or him showing up on The Simpsons. There would be no point to putting licensed Godzilla comics on a page of non-licensed Godzilla appearances, especially when we have a page for Aftershock and every other official Godzilla comic or novel.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Oh okay sorry didn't think that one through. Although I have improved, I did do research on it this time before editing.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

I wanna help the Ultra Wiki out with the Koseidon monsters and aliens, but I don't think I have a complete list, any chance you have a book with the Koseidon gang in it? If not, it's fine!

Les (talkcontribs)

The Koseidon monsters, characters, and vehicles are listed in All Kaiju Kaijin (First Volume) as follows (translations are my own):

  • Human Artillery Koseider (人間大砲コセイダー) / Go Toki (トキ・ゴウ)
  • Director Kaido (カイドウ長官)
  • Tetsu Himugashi (ヒムガシ・テツ)
  • Chikara Banno (バンノ・チカラ)
  • Mori Mori (モリ・モリイ)
  • Mari Haruna (ハルナ・マリ)
  • Urara Bukkusa (ブックサ・ウララ)
  • Princess Altashia (アルタシヤ姫)
  • Vicla G (ビックラG)
  • Koseidon (コセイドン号)
  • Faitus-1 (ファイタス1号)
  • Pteranodon (ティラノドン)
  • Triceratops (トリケラトプス)
  • Futabasaurus (フタバスズキリュウ)
  • Nipponosaurus (ニッポノサウルス)
  • Tyrannosaurus (ティラノサウルス)
  • Dimetrodon (ディメトロドン)
  • Inspector General Zaji (総監ザジ)
  • Godmess Soldiers (ゴドメス兵)
  • Giant Battleship Galmus (巨大戦艦ガルムス)
  • Godmess Fighters (ゴドメス戦闘機)
  • Killer Plant Sigma-1 (殺人植物シグマ・1)
  • Emperor Godmess (ゴドメス帝王)
  • Militant Destran (闘士デストラン)
  • Commanding Officer Jericho (ジェリコ司令官)
  • Dinosaur Gallius (恐獣ガリアス) / Dinosaur Gallius (Giant) (恐獣ガリアス(巨大化))
  • Commander Gomell (ゴメル軍団長)
  • Dinosaur Tank Demoth (恐獣戦車デモス)
  • Dinosaur Gibras (恐獣ギブラス)
  • Killer Dinosaurs (殺人恐獣)
  • General Kesnochi (将軍ケスノーチ)
  • Dinosaur Kinokong (恐獣キノコング)
  • Magma Killer Magmus (マグマ殺人マグマス)
  • Dinosaur Grandon (恐獣グランドン)
  • General Gavan (将軍ガバン)
  • Dinosaur Baribar (恐獣バリバア)
  • Dinosaur Gaos (恐獣ガオス)
  • Electromagnetic Dinosaur Eredon (電磁恐獣エレドン)
  • Gigi (ギギ)
  • Cyborg S1 (サイボーグS1号)
  • Alien Mosgiss (モスギス星人)
  • Cyborg KII (サイボーグKII)
  • Strange Creature Dakron (異生物ダキロン)
  • Jurry (ジュリー)
  • Cyborg BI (サイボーグBI)
  • Cyborg BII (サイボーグBII)
  • Dr. Kuramochi (倉持博士)
  • Artificial Dinosaur Franken (人造恐竜フランケン)
  • Akmaz (アクマズ)
  • Alien Horost Commanding Officer (ホロスト星人・司令官)
  • Alien Horost (ホロスト星人)
  • Supersaurus (スーパーサウルス)
  • Satarl (サタール)
  • Lizard Man (トカゲ人間)
  • Kiska (キスカ)

Wikipedia lists the additional names:

  • Venomous Space Serpent Gibra (宇宙毒蛇ギブラ) just before Gibras, who has the different subtitle of "Venemous Serpent Dinosaur" (毒蛇恐獣)
  • Dinosaur Pragia (恐獣ピラギア) after them but before Kinokong
  • Commander Gira Lama (ギラ・ラマ軍団長) between Magmus and Grandon
  • Gaos has a different subtitle of "Capsule Dinosaur" (カプセル恐獣)
  • Dr. Ogimura (荻村博士) just before Gigi, who has the subtitle "Killer Robot" (殺人ロボット)
  • Dr. Sabata (サバタ博士) after them but before Cyborg S1
  • Cyborg KII is spelled as Cyborg K2 (サイボーグK2号)
  • Plant Lifeform Cosmoplum (植物生命体コスモプラム) after Dakron
  • Dr. Kuroiwa (黒岩博士) and Cyborg Soldiers (サイボーグ戦闘員) between Cosmoplum and Dr. Kuramochi. The B Cyborgs are also spelled as Cyborg B1 (サイボーグB1) and Cyborg B2 (サイボーグB2)
  • Franken-1 (フランケン1号) just before Franken
  • Gonosuke Kishida (キシダ・ゴウノスケ), Cyborg Corps (サイボーグ隊), Tsumara (津村), Cyborg Guardmen (サイボーグガードマン), Dr. Dark (ドクター・ダーク), and Mysterious Figure Shiraki (怪人態シラキ) all before Alien Horost, who have the subtitle of "Nomadic Aliens" (遊牧宇宙人)
  • Nishiyama (西山), Cyborg (サイボーグ), Alien Yapoo (宇宙人ヤプー) after that. The Supersaurus is also given the name Ragu (ラグー)
  • Commando (コマンド), Professor Kisaragi (如月教授) and Monster Bemgun (怪獣ベムガン) after Satarl, who has the subtitle of Spacetime Superman (時空間超人). The Lizard Man's real name is also Dr. Munagata (宗方博士)
  • Robot Weapon Novah (ロボット兵器ノヴァー) at the end
Lamango (talkcontribs)

Thank you SO much! I'mma slap these bad boys on the Ultra Wiki Koseidon Page!

BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Hi, I noticed that you posted a comment in the old Wikia Godzilla wiki stating that somebody posted two clips from Assault! Human!! on YouTube. However, they have since been deleted and a new video of the show has surfaced (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPb0FFRmwik&list=WL&index=128&t=0s). Were the contents of the old videos similar to the new one, and if not, do you know how I can watch the old clips without purchasing the DVD you mentioned in the Wikia comment?

Thanks.

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, these are the same clips though in lower quality.

BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Were the older clips also dubbed over with the theme song?

Les (talkcontribs)

No. The clips are taken from a documentary-type film about a place in Japan, so IIRC there was simply a narrator talking.

BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Thanks.

UltraGoji (talkcontribs)

Hey Les, I saw that you listed Godzilla vs. Megalon as one of your favorite Godzilla films. It's one of mine too.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Jet Jaguar was the star of the movie , i don't want people to be like Godzilla!,Godzilla! all the time , this movie should be the box

office bomb instead of being a letdown

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

It'll be best to future proof other toho kaiju , than Godzilla himself.

Les (talkcontribs)

vs. Megalon and Final Wars are definitely feel-good movies. I can put either one of them on and not be bored with them. As ridiculous as they are, I love them.

UltraGoji (talkcontribs)

My thoughts exactly! Though, Final Wars is kinda slow at points.

Are you gonna tell me why you erased the pilot of Kiryu in SRW?

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Summary by VaderRaptor

Resolved! ...hopefully.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Lets see what was this time.

Les (talkcontribs)

We are not an Evangelion wiki. Even if they were involved with Godzilla in the game, we don't need pictures of the characters standing.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Ok makes sense

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Now are you gonna tell me why you are removing the Trivia from my page?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I'm pretty sure the reason is because it's not that important to be in trivia.

Les (talkcontribs)

It is not "your page," first of all. We are entitled to make changes regardless of who published the page. Stating that 'this is the first time kaiju have appeared in this game' is obvious and does not need to be trivia. Most games Godzilla crosses over with are not inherently kaiju-related, but we don't put trivia on each of the pages stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared. We appreciate the contribution, but there's no reason to be so standoffish about improvements being made.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

First at all ofcourse it belongs to the list of pages I've made in this wiki. But now I feel like if good people were creating pages for this wiki and then you take all the credit for it.

Second the trivia states that it was the first time a Kaiju appeared on SRW franchise, not just the videogame. But eh whatever........

Ok.

Les (talkcontribs)

My dude, are you sure you understand the point of a wiki? Yes, you were the one who contributed the information and initially published the page. Great. That does not mean it belongs to you, nor that we are disallowed from editing it. How is removing a piece of trivia "tak[ing] all the credit for it"?

Something like Symphogear is a long-running franchise too, but it isn't inherently kaiju-related so stating a Godzilla crossover is the first time the franchise has featured kaiju should be fairly obvious. Magic: The Gathering is a massively popular franchise with countless expansions and they just recently had the first Godzilla crossover. Yet, we don't have trivia stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared because it's redundant and unnecessary. Arguing about this is pointless. I've told you my reasoning for why things were removed. Nobody is trying to steal glory away from you; no page belongs to any one person. This is a collaborative website where everyone is just as entitled to contribute as the next guy.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

^^^

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I think you didn't read well my comment, I said the page belongs to my list of pages created for the wiki, I didn't said it was mine mine.

Ok now I understand.

This is solved now.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I wanna ask you to please forgive me due to my prior behaviour. I didn't mean to be hostile or something, sorry.

I didn't mean that the pages were mine mine, I just said the page belongs to the my list of created pages for this wiki. Also sorry to say you were taking the credit from my work. I hope you can forgive me someday. I'll never repeat that again.

Thanks for read.

Quick question have yall already scanned the Godzilla dna book? I couldnt find anything by searching it up and yall dont seem to have a book section like the video games and movies.

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Metropath27 (talkcontribs)

Quick question have yall already scanned the Godzilla dna book? I couldnt find anything by searching it up and yall dont seem to have a book section like the video games and movies.

Les (talkcontribs)