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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Les/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

I need your help

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Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Happy New year.

Would you mind help me?

To get the a scan of this book, Encyclopedia of Godzilla (SpaceGodzilla Edition), * SpaceGodzilla Theory (p. 65)

Thanks in advance

Les (talkcontribs)

I don't have it. If Titano doesn't respond to you, then there's nothing I can do.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

ok thanks

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I was wondering why Mecha-Ghidorah was removed from the Godzilla monster list?

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Bump

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Bump

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)
Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Nicolas Driscol the person who wrote the article told me this:


The article was approved by Toho in the magazine and for the release in the DVD set. So yeah, in that way at least, he is “official”

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I can't say I'm much invested one way or the other.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

So what do you think can I add Mecha-Ghidorah again to the list?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I don't mind, but I'm not clear on what the title of the article actually is.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Oh I'm not gonna make Mecha-Ghidorah article...

I was going to add him to the Godzilla monster list page.

But if you wanna make the article go ahead.

Les (talkcontribs)

Battle in Outer Space

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KunshuGoji (talkcontribs)

Hi Les, I noticed you'd added Battle in Outer Space under filmography in my Texas sandbox. I haven't seen the film myself, so I've been doing some research to see what role it plays in the movie. Unfortunately I haven't found anything. Would you mind telling me how it's involved so I can update the sandbox? Thanks in advance.

Les (talkcontribs)

Texas was one of the three launch sites of the FFE Space Fighters, along with Siberia and Tokyo. I can't remember if it's actually shown or only mentioned.

KunshuGoji (talkcontribs)

Alrighty, I'll be sure to add it in. Thanks again.

Unofficial Godzilla Article

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KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Well... I wanted to create a Wikizilla article about Dinomania's (That ain't me) LordVerse Godzilla from Godzilla: Lord of the Galaxy. Is that... appropriate or not, for it is not official?

Les (talkcontribs)

We rarely cover fan content unless it is especially notable (things like Gamera 4 and Heritage). Certainly never incarnation pages for a fan appearance of Godzilla.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Oh I see. Well thank you. It is pretty notable, around 360,000 views and counting.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Although this was my first time signing up. Just wanted to try something out lol

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

We don't really look at view counts to determine notability.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Ah I see... how do you determine notability?

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)
Mr. Eiga (talkcontribs)

Les am i aloud to make the topic of giant monster films from The United States or is it to off topic to begin with?

Les (talkcontribs)

I assume you're asking if you're allowed to make sandboxes for American movies. They're on a case-by-case basis, like anything else. If you don't want something to get deleted, then ask about the movie first before you make a sandbox for it. The admins discuss what movies fit on the site and don't.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Mr. Eiga: As I know, films, such as The Lost World, Them!, Tarantula!, It Came from Beneath the Sea, Jurassic Park, The Meg and many other aren't allowed here. But films, like Pacific Rim, Rampage, The Giant Claw, Mega Shark, Monsters (2010) and Monster Island are allowed, because they are related to the many films on Wikizilla. That's sad for me too, that we cannot create articles about these films, but we must follow the rules.

Les (talkcontribs)

All of the films we have on the site have been deliberated over and we would've came to a consensus to include them. Mega Shark, as personally worthless as I think those movies are, managed to squeak by because of its clear inspirations from kaiju movies (it has a Mecha Shark in one movie, not to mention a ripoff of a Titan from Attack on Titan) and the fact that it was produced by The Asylum, who have made mockbusters of both Pacific Rim and Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

There's somewhat of a case for The Lost World due to it being a direct precursor to King Kong, but I don't like the precedent it sets for movies exclusively about dinosaurs who aren't monstrous in any way. The Last Dinosaur is the closest comparison, and that one's a no-brainer because of its use of suitmation and distribution by Toho.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

@Les: But The Lost World isn't just a precursor of King Kong; it is also the first film with giant monster destroying buildings and attacking city. I agree about other films but not this one.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

I think it would be helpful for everyone that edits the site if the intended scope/focus of this Wiki was clarified somewhere (forgive me if it is, but I haven't seen that anywhere). Despite the name, it's obviously not confined to just Godzilla movies, but it doesn't seem to be confined to just (giant) monster movies either. It seems to me that some movies we currently have pages for or which have been recently sandboxed would be better suited to some of the other fan Wikis, namely Tokupedia.

Les (talkcontribs)

Ultimately everything stems from Godzilla, Gamera and Kong, but it isn't confined just to that.

Movies which employ special effects, are produced by companies related to kaiju films or that were worked on by people who also worked on kaiju films, and feature monsters or other strange creatures, are usually on the table. Things like Buddha (1961) and The Invisible Swordsman are examples of this, being produced by Daiei who are obviously known for the Gamera series plus the Daimajin and Yokai Monsters movies, feature strange creatures, and employ tokusatsu techniques. It's impossible to make clear-cut rules, because there will always be edge cases.

The website's scope has admittedly become rather large, but at the end of the day it's down to what we as the administrators feel is right for the website and can be adequately covered by us.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Les, please, can you allow me create article about The Lost World? I think I argued about the inclusion of it.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

The Them! sandbox is three years old and we forgot to decide what we were going to do with it. Personally, I'm not in favor of it - though I would vote for The Lost World because of how much it influenced the original King Kong.

In regards to Asylum and Asylum-tier films, I don't think any of them really belong here besides the mockbusters of films we already cover (Monster, the Atlantic Rim pair, and Monster Island) and the Mega Shark series.

would you like me to make a page

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Mr. Eiga (talkcontribs)

would you like me to make a page? if soo what kind i will do as you ask for this topic.

KunshuGoji (talkcontribs)

Hi! just wanted to say thanks for your contributions to my Texas sandbox, I'm trying to start being more helpful around Wikizilla.

Les (talkcontribs)

Of course. Your contributions are appreciated!

About the list of Godzilla monsters

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Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I found a new character made by Dark Horse that should probably be in the list.... Clodzilla.

No, Is not a joke... apparently he appeared on a comic along Godzilla, King Ghidorah and others.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I went ahead and bought the issue... scans to come! Kind of sad that Dark Horse had to lean on parody law to get King Ghidorah in a comic during the years they had the Godzilla license.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

True fact...

There is also a Bear-like kaiju, a Gamera-like kaiju and of course Bodzilla.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Ah, I was hoping for Lawyer-Friendly Gamera!

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I mean it looks like Gamera, but maybe due copyright it has another name.

Btw, can I add Clodzilla and the others to the list of Godzilla monsters?

Or is it wiser to wait for you to have the comic?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Clodzilla is fine, but I'd like to verify the others and see if they were given any sort of names.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

ok.

Would this mean we have to update the Godzilla comics section and also make a page for the comic?

Les (talkcontribs)

We probably will

TheWatcherIsBae (talkcontribs)

Hello Les, I understand that you can change usernames on here. I'd like to request my name be changed to TheWatcherIsBae (the lack of spaces is intentional) because I am abandoning my current name that I use here, on Fandom and on Discord so that they match the username I use on every other social media platform. Thank you for reading and hopefully changing my name.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

RIP Green Blob Thing.
TheWatcherIsBae has been born.

What do you mean by “Unnecessary Content”?

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SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

I just uploaded a page about the Singular Point Gabara, but only after a few minutes, it was taken down due to “unnecessary content“

Can you elaborate? What do you mean by unnecessary content? Is it because of how small the page was? If so, why did the S.P. Rodan get one?

Les (talkcontribs)

Only the most prominent of the kaiju on this site are given incarnation pages. This includes things like Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla who have so many appearances that individual pages for each becomes viable. With a monster like Gabara, there's no reason his appearances can't all be covered under one page. Same way we don't have separate pages for the incarnations of someone like Ebirah or Manda - there is simply no point.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

But my addition of Anguirus S.P. to Anguirus' page gets removed?

Les (talkcontribs)

None of the pages have Singular Point information yet except for the incarnation pages. The only reason Godzilla/Singular Point and Rodan/Singular Point exist are because those are two of the monsters who need to have incarnation pages. Otherwise there's no reason to start adding information until we actually know anything about the characters' roles.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Aaah, ok, I get ya. I'm still under the Ultra wiki thing, we see a monster return, we add the series and put 'They are scheduled to make an appearance' under it.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

I can go find images of the Sazer X, Justirisers and Gransazers aliens, kaijins and kaiju if you provide me their Japanese names. You willing?