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Hey Les, I need help.

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Lamango (talkcontribs)

I wanna help the Ultra Wiki out with the Koseidon monsters and aliens, but I don't think I have a complete list, any chance you have a book with the Koseidon gang in it? If not, it's fine!

Les (talkcontribs)

The Koseidon monsters, characters, and vehicles are listed in All Kaiju Kaijin (First Volume) as follows (translations are my own):

  • Human Artillery Koseider (人間大砲コセイダー) / Go Toki (トキ・ゴウ)
  • Director Kaido (カイドウ長官)
  • Tetsu Himugashi (ヒムガシ・テツ)
  • Chikara Banno (バンノ・チカラ)
  • Mori Mori (モリ・モリイ)
  • Mari Haruna (ハルナ・マリ)
  • Urara Bukkusa (ブックサ・ウララ)
  • Princess Altashia (アルタシヤ姫)
  • Vicla G (ビックラG)
  • Koseidon (コセイドン号)
  • Faitus-1 (ファイタス1号)
  • Pteranodon (ティラノドン)
  • Triceratops (トリケラトプス)
  • Futabasaurus (フタバスズキリュウ)
  • Nipponosaurus (ニッポノサウルス)
  • Tyrannosaurus (ティラノサウルス)
  • Dimetrodon (ディメトロドン)
  • Inspector General Zaji (総監ザジ)
  • Godmess Soldiers (ゴドメス兵)
  • Giant Battleship Galmus (巨大戦艦ガルムス)
  • Godmess Fighters (ゴドメス戦闘機)
  • Killer Plant Sigma-1 (殺人植物シグマ・1)
  • Emperor Godmess (ゴドメス帝王)
  • Militant Destran (闘士デストラン)
  • Commanding Officer Jericho (ジェリコ司令官)
  • Dinosaur Gallius (恐獣ガリアス) / Dinosaur Gallius (Giant) (恐獣ガリアス(巨大化))
  • Commander Gomell (ゴメル軍団長)
  • Dinosaur Tank Demoth (恐獣戦車デモス)
  • Dinosaur Gibras (恐獣ギブラス)
  • Killer Dinosaurs (殺人恐獣)
  • General Kesnochi (将軍ケスノーチ)
  • Dinosaur Kinokong (恐獣キノコング)
  • Magma Killer Magmus (マグマ殺人マグマス)
  • Dinosaur Grandon (恐獣グランドン)
  • General Gavan (将軍ガバン)
  • Dinosaur Baribar (恐獣バリバア)
  • Dinosaur Gaos (恐獣ガオス)
  • Electromagnetic Dinosaur Eredon (電磁恐獣エレドン)
  • Gigi (ギギ)
  • Cyborg S1 (サイボーグS1号)
  • Alien Mosgiss (モスギス星人)
  • Cyborg KII (サイボーグKII)
  • Strange Creature Dakron (異生物ダキロン)
  • Jurry (ジュリー)
  • Cyborg BI (サイボーグBI)
  • Cyborg BII (サイボーグBII)
  • Dr. Kuramochi (倉持博士)
  • Artificial Dinosaur Franken (人造恐竜フランケン)
  • Akmaz (アクマズ)
  • Alien Horost Commanding Officer (ホロスト星人・司令官)
  • Alien Horost (ホロスト星人)
  • Supersaurus (スーパーサウルス)
  • Satarl (サタール)
  • Lizard Man (トカゲ人間)
  • Kiska (キスカ)

Wikipedia lists the additional names:

  • Venomous Space Serpent Gibra (宇宙毒蛇ギブラ) just before Gibras, who has the different subtitle of "Venemous Serpent Dinosaur" (毒蛇恐獣)
  • Dinosaur Pragia (恐獣ピラギア) after them but before Kinokong
  • Commander Gira Lama (ギラ・ラマ軍団長) between Magmus and Grandon
  • Gaos has a different subtitle of "Capsule Dinosaur" (カプセル恐獣)
  • Dr. Ogimura (荻村博士) just before Gigi, who has the subtitle "Killer Robot" (殺人ロボット)
  • Dr. Sabata (サバタ博士) after them but before Cyborg S1
  • Cyborg KII is spelled as Cyborg K2 (サイボーグK2号)
  • Plant Lifeform Cosmoplum (植物生命体コスモプラム) after Dakron
  • Dr. Kuroiwa (黒岩博士) and Cyborg Soldiers (サイボーグ戦闘員) between Cosmoplum and Dr. Kuramochi. The B Cyborgs are also spelled as Cyborg B1 (サイボーグB1) and Cyborg B2 (サイボーグB2)
  • Franken-1 (フランケン1号) just before Franken
  • Gonosuke Kishida (キシダ・ゴウノスケ), Cyborg Corps (サイボーグ隊), Tsumara (津村), Cyborg Guardmen (サイボーグガードマン), Dr. Dark (ドクター・ダーク), and Mysterious Figure Shiraki (怪人態シラキ) all before Alien Horost, who have the subtitle of "Nomadic Aliens" (遊牧宇宙人)
  • Nishiyama (西山), Cyborg (サイボーグ), Alien Yapoo (宇宙人ヤプー) after that. The Supersaurus is also given the name Ragu (ラグー)
  • Commando (コマンド), Professor Kisaragi (如月教授) and Monster Bemgun (怪獣ベムガン) after Satarl, who has the subtitle of Spacetime Superman (時空間超人). The Lizard Man's real name is also Dr. Munagata (宗方博士)
  • Robot Weapon Novah (ロボット兵器ノヴァー) at the end
Lamango (talkcontribs)

Thank you SO much! I'mma slap these bad boys on the Ultra Wiki Koseidon Page!

Summary by SkullIslandExplorer

Let’s stop clogging Talk Pages like this and let the Admins do their work.

Rope (talkcontribs)

please unlock the page

Rope (talkcontribs)

yoohoo

Les (talkcontribs)

The section has been alphabetized, but the page still has much work to be done. The protection is set to expire after a day but maybe I'll need to extend it. There is nothing you could possibly need to add to this page right now that you harass me about it on two separate posts. Now cool it. (And stop trying to call me like I'm your dog?)

Rope (talkcontribs)

I have just put a lot of work into that page and would like to work more on it. whatever

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

@Les: Hello, hope you don’t mind me barging in like this.


@Rope: Please read the following quotes:


“Your guys' trying to alphabetize the list is breaking the code, and I can't work on the page effectively when there are editing conflicts.” And, “You have to be careful of the way the cells of the wikitable are set up or else it will become completely destroyed like this. It's very delicate and requires more than just copy-pasting sections around.” - Les.


“If you start editing a page and someone else publishes their own edit before you publish theirs, it creates an edit conflict, requiring you to paste your changes back into the altered page, an extremely time-consuming process when dealing with the complex code contained in these tables. You're editing the page so frequently you're effectively blocking Les from fixing your coding errors.” - Astounding Beyond Belief.


Do you know what that means? They’re trying to tell you that editing conflicts will mess up the codes within a page. They know what they’re talking about, and I don’t even wanna know what would happen if something like that happened to a page. Have a good rest of the evening.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Okay Somebody tell me what is going on

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Okay, I give up.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

They just did.

Rope (talkcontribs)

I am confused

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)
Rope (talkcontribs)

I did but it makes no sense to me. dumb it down for me

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Your edits (if you keep doing what you're doing) will mess up the code on the page.

Rope (talkcontribs)

oh okay so i can continue when he is done

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Just ask him when the page is ready and maybe we'll have a talk page for organizing times to work on it.

Les (talkcontribs)

I have no idea what SkullIslandExplorer's talking about. It is not the edit conflicts causing the issues of the page, it's the sloppy editing of the table that breaks it. The edit conflicts just prevent us from doing something about it. This is a very extensive page and requires more than copy-pasting entries around and throwing dates into it. It still needs to be thoroughly organized and restructured, and it's something we need to handle. Your wanting to help is appreciated, but it isn't doing us any good right now.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

.... yeah, sorry about that. I’m not too smart when it comes to this tech stuff.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

^Since someone is going to invariably ask for a dumbed-down version:

Your edits aren't up to the standard the site requires. The goal isn't to do as many edits as quickly as possible, it's to keep up the general appearance of the rest of the site. Continuing to sloppily edit just for the sake of editing is causing errors that are breaking the page's code.

The page is locked because the admins had to go in and manually fix all those errors. They couldn't leave the page unprotected because you guys are editing so fast and so frequently that you're canceling out the admins' work.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

To Rope and MinecraftJoe
Take a break to think about how low quality your edits are.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

.... or, maybe we can do the old fashioned way of fixing up other pages on this wiki, instead of having tunnel vision on specific ones. The fact that you focus entirely on the Godzilla in popular culture page instead of helping to contribute to the other 3,219 pages on this wiki baffles me.


Oh, and if you’re going to edit other articles, don’t swarm pages with edits, or the Admins will have to do this again (and I’m saying that because it’s very evident). And I’d prefer if we don’t mess up page codes, ‘cause that would suck. Just sayin’.

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Hey, I have been doing other pages, just I was the original one to notice this, or at least bring it to mind of everyone. Rope is the one who is constantly working on it. I just do a few organizations on it sometimes (which I thought were helpful) and then work on other pages. Everyone, dont get angry at me about this.

Rope (talkcontribs)

yo at least I do the work unlike some people who tell other people to do it

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Your missing the point.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Okay guys, I think we’ve clogged Les’s Talk Page enough. How about we just learn from this, put this behind us, let bygones be bygones, and move on with our lives? Does that sound like a good idea? I think so.

@Les, Sorry about the mess. Be safe and have a good day.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Vader raptor) Who cares Skull) Thanks

Rope (talkcontribs)

meant to say who cares to vaderaptor and thanks to skull

Rope (talkcontribs)

why did you protect godzilla in popular culture

Les (talkcontribs)

Your guys' trying to alphabetize the list is breaking the code, and I can't work on the page effectively when there are editing conflicts. I need to work extensively on the page to reformat it first before y'all start adding/changing things.

Rope (talkcontribs)

How is it breaking code. Astounding Belief told us to

Les (talkcontribs)
Rope (talkcontribs)

Can you reopen it by 4 oclock today

Les (talkcontribs)

Why?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I have nothing to do tonight and was going to work on it in my free time

Rope (talkcontribs)

yoohoo

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

I still don't understand why you closed it. We were just organizing it like ABB told us to

Rope (talkcontribs)

Yes exactly

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

He explained everything there is to explain; you're just ignoring his clarification for some reason.

Rope (talkcontribs)

No we are not

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

If you start editing a page and someone else publishes their own edit before you publish theirs, it creates an edit conflict, requiring you to paste your changes back into the altered page, an extremely time-consuming process when dealing with the complex code contained in these tables. You're editing the page so frequently you're effectively blocking Les from fixing your coding errors.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Oh okay, all I ask is that he opens it back up as soon as possible

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Oh that makes sense. I just didn't understand the exact reasoning.

Rope (talkcontribs)

When are we going to be able to edit the page again this is rediculous. You have had all day to fix a small problem. Please hurry up

Rope (talkcontribs)

Aftershock iS a godzilla comic that came out this year in may

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, but... do you understand the point of this page?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I thought I did

Les (talkcontribs)

It's to compile references and appearances of Godzilla in non-Godzilla related media. Like Godzilla being mentioned in Garfield, or him showing up on The Simpsons. There would be no point to putting licensed Godzilla comics on a page of non-licensed Godzilla appearances, especially when we have a page for Aftershock and every other official Godzilla comic or novel.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Oh okay sorry didn't think that one through. Although I have improved, I did do research on it this time before editing.

Alexander skarsgard character

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Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

in an interview, he gave descriptions of his character, it's also mentioned in Wikipedia.

Les (talkcontribs)

Not really much we can do with it until we get a name. Maybe Development section of the movie page.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

he didn't Tell his character name,but he gave a info about his character.

Rope (talkcontribs)

I was the only contributor because i posted it like half an hour ago and it is early in the morning.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Why is it that you and everyone else can make pages and have sandboxes but I can't.

Rope (talkcontribs)

You are abusing you power as a buerocrat

Les (talkcontribs)

The ‘only contributor’ message is not my doing, it’s automatically part of the description when a page is deleted. And no, removing a random sandbox attached to the Main Page of the site with two sentences about the Simpsons is not an “abuse” of power. Sandboxes should be in the format User:[username]/Sandbox/[pagename] and made with the intent of it becoming a fully-fledged and useful page. What would that have become?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I was going to ask vaderraptor my personal and close friend to help me with it, I am sorry for saying something about the abuse of power. But can you please revert it and if it isn't finished by tonight you can delete it.

Les (talkcontribs)

I reiterate: what page are you intending to create?

Rope (talkcontribs)

It is a about the Godzilla episodes in simpson, Homer turns into "Zilla" and rampages around, if you look up simpsons godzilla you will find a bunch of images

Les (talkcontribs)

Single episodes of something with a reference fo Godzilla that are otherwise unrelated to the site should not get pages; that episode and others from The Simpsons are already covered on the Godzilla in popular culture page.

Rope (talkcontribs)

I just really want to create a sandbox and help out can you give me ideas.

Les (talkcontribs)

At the top of Recent Changes there is a “things to do” list with categories full of pages in need of plot information, cleanup, removal of plagiarism, sources, etc. Those are all things that are actually important. If you really want to make new pages, just look around for anywhere there is a red link to a page. There’s even a random page button on the sidebar where you can quickly jump around the site.

Promote VaderRaptor!

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MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

A few others and I agree that VaderRaptor deserves to be promoted! He has just passed 1000 edits, and really does a lot on this website. He really works hard on this and makes it fun for a lot of us here. He should be promoted. Thanks!

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Les, why did you delete my page on Minette and Mallory? It wasn't unrelated, and it informed on something that there was no editing on.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

He deleted the original not the sandbox (current page). The page (not sandbox) was just sitting there with nothing happening. Just look on recent changes.

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

well why'd he delete it?

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

o ok

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

How do you get the notices about my comments?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I looked on recent changes

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Oh

Rope (talkcontribs)

this is way off topic, but should we add a godzilla comics section, that is only for godzilla comics

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

We already have pages for the comics

Rope (talkcontribs)

Yes, but they are all spread out, what if we put them in a category all by themselves

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

They already have categories at the bottom of the page.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Don't ban Destroyer06 (2.0)

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VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

According to the user and his parents Destroyer's brother took control of the profile and sabotaged the profile and the website.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Great, what's to stop him from doing it again?

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

(I hate to break my hiatus and be the skeptic) I don’t think Destroyer06 would be telling the truth. It all comes down to a combination of what he did and said that night (check his Contributions for proof), and these two pieces of past evidence:


User talk:Destroyer06/Archive 1


User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief/Archive 1#Deleting text

And if he’s telling the truth, then he’ll have to be swearing to God he won’t start BS like that again. (Sorry for butting in like this. But I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. See ya in the future)

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

He's learned from that. I once deleted a plot section and I learned. I can monitor him and his brother as we keep close contact with each-other.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

You deleted a needlessly long introduction which I later condensed. He (or his brother, again?) deleted a section from a page for no reason and gave me a bratty explanation.

And you should not have to "monitor" two people so one of them can continue to use a Godzilla fansite, not that you could do that 24/7 anyway.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Where you deleted the empty plot section? Again, not the same thing.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

The brother doesn't know how to confirm his email so we should be fine. Besides, me and Destroyer are working this out together.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That doesn't really tell me anything. The other bureaucrats could overrule me, but I am not unblocking the account that was used for the biggest page-blanking rampage in the history of this site.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I'm still really sorry about that.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

You didn't do it.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

(I know I’m on hiatus, and I know you don’t want me to barge in Astounding, but I need to talk to my friend here) Look VaderRaptor, I know Destroyer06 is your friend, but here’s the truth, there is more to life than pleading to unban your friend and contributing to Wikizilla. His life isn’t your life, his ban isn’t your responsibility, and his despicable actions aren’t your actions. And like Astounding said, he doesn’t have the total power to unblock people for committing such an act of policy violation. Not to mention the overwhelming evidence that lies within Destroyer06’s Contributions Page. I know I sound cold for saying this, but it’s the absolute truth, and I don’t think the Admins’s answer would be any different from mine. For all I know, I could still be blocked to this day (I got blocked earlier this year for attacking other people for having different opinions than mine. And Astounding Beyond Belief had every right to block me. But anyway, that’s not the point). All you can do VaderRaptor, for yourself that is, is learn from this experience, control yourself (that includes your actions, thoughts, and words), follow the rules, be respectful, have civility, and don’t do things that can land you in trouble (that also applies to real life, but your parents can explain MUCH better than me about life). I hope you understand. Farewell.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I still got him into the site so it's indirectly my fault everything happened.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

No it isn’t. Sure, you introduced him to this site, but you aren’t responsible for his actions (unless you were his supervisor, which you aren’t, so it’s not your responsibility). Please learn and move on from this. Good day. (And on a side note: Let’s stop clogging Talk Pages like this)

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

I hate to be a tattle tale-type @$$hole, but can you talk to this guy? User:Godozilla He’s spamming again. (Check the Comments Log for proof)

Les (talkcontribs)

ブロックドだ。

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

(In case you don’t see it sooner) I think he’s at it again: Godzilla (2014 film)#comment-14240 (BTW, I kinda scolded him for it. I’m sorry for doing that. It won’t happen again)

Update: Never mind, Astounding Beyond Belief took care of it. Sorry for bothering you.