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Help i need clarity.

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

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I Was told off by another staff member over something that i think you are aware of due to making edits on other pages i added it too but i dont think you had an issue with specifically the Wikipedia links to Species of creatures that some monsters are.

I just need clarity because it just seems like only one staff member has an issue with that.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Unrelated question but in regards to categories

Should there be a category for Monsters that are (or based on) Cryptids?

or at least a Real world Mythological Monsters (And Characters because Zeus from that one comic) Category that includes cryptids as well?

im asking because you told me to next time ask before i went ahead and did it

Les (talkcontribs)

I don't know how useful a category on folklore/myth creatures would be, since it'd end up with significant overlap with yokai

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

yeah i did consider that but could that be an "also see" section?

I feel there are enough monsters on the site outside of yokai to warrant a folklore/myth category but the yokai overlap is indeed an issue

Les (talkcontribs)

Make the case for it. How many pages are there that could be categorized under something like that, and what would it be called?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

unclear if MV titans such as Behemoth and Scylla count due to being the source of mythical mythical creatures in universe but being based on them out of universe as well but from what i see we have the following (counting Titans as well)

*Behemoth

*Scylla

*Methuselah

*Tiamat

*Amhuluk

*Na Kika

*Kraken

*Quetzalcoatl

*Hydra

Yamata no Orochi

*Nessie

*Yeti

*Minotaur (this one maybe should be merged with the Minotaur (Kong: The Animated Series)

*Chimera

*Siren Sisters

*King Caesar (Maybe counts due to being based on Shisa?)

*Large Antarctic Sea Mammal


as for what to call it i honestly don't know

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

also should there be a Deity Category?

this applies to Both monsters/characters that are worshiped as such and monsters/characters that literally are deities.

The Atragon book?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Should the book that the atragon was based on get its own page?

Les (talkcontribs)

There's a not very fleshed out sandbox for it here

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I found that myself i unfortunately cannot add much to it.

But what about the story matango was based on should that be a thing here or no?

Dragon Discovery..maybe Nessie after all?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Kaiju no 14 discovered something

Talk:Dragon

Apparantly the All Toho Monsters Pictorial Book says

未制作映画『ネッシー』の原型が流用された。

This roughly translates to "The prototype of the unproduced movie "Nessie" was diverted"

https://wikizilla.org/w/images/c/c1/Nessie-Unmade-Ckf16oJWgAAH0EA.jpg heres the image in question as well i think

If im understanding this correct it seems to say the Dragon was based on a model made for nessie not a reused prop

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

So what does this mean?

Les (talkcontribs)

Responded on the talk page. (You don't need to write on my wall about every inquiry, I can see the talk page on recent changes just as well as you can)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I'm sorry i just don't know who to approach in regards to a lot of things/

Diomazus (talkcontribs)

Apparently a user named Pedro, (his profile linked below) uploaded this altered image of Scylla’s concept art, with a change of the head, was added. I used TinEye reverse image search, and nothing came up. Do you know which picture where the picture came from? I’m only asking because you were one of the latest people who edited the Scylla page. Pedro’s Page: User:Pedro Unaltered: File:Multiple - Scylla.jpg Altered: File:Titanus Scylla.jpg

Pedro (talkcontribs)

It came from Legendary's Instagram Stories, so it's official.

Diomazus (talkcontribs)

Link?

Les (talkcontribs)

If you're unfamiliar, Instagram stories expire within one day. There is no way to verify this unless Pedro has a non-cropped screenshot

Diomazus (talkcontribs)

Oh well.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I dont mean to Necro this but Apparantly i have a friend who may or may not had created that image but i nor him can recall

is it possible legendary used a fan edit?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Possible, yes, but we would need proof.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i apparently got confused apparently he told me he never posted it but i recall seeing a scylla edit somewhere but i have no clue where

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I need help with the other episodes of SP as well as the character Japanese text descriptions as well

Intresting Cloverfield related discovery Japanese Novelization?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Skull Island (MonsterVerse) Size

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SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

I’m not sure if this is worth mentioning, but according to “Godzilla & Kong: Enter The MonsterVerse”, Skull island is approximately 600 square kilometres

Should this be added to Skull Island’s page?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MzYBY0D8kY

Godzilla the ride???

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

So why is a unique ride design not allowed to get a design page but always sunset godzilla does?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I thought at the very least it could have a design page rather than a monster profile

GojiFan2019 (talkcontribs)

idk possibly cuz its from film? i think

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I figured thats a case but i felt SeibuGoji was a distinct enough design with multiple merch pieces to warrant a mention at least it feels weird not to address the designs at all

Les (talkcontribs)

Godzilla the Ride is essentially a short film, which we don't typically make design or incarnation pages for.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

We also don't have a page for Always: Sunset on Third Street 2.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Les (talkcontribs)

He said we don't have a page for the movie. That design page is the only mention of Godzilla being in the movie.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I pointed out it had a Design page to begin with in the very first post of the thread

but seems that got ignored....

i wasnt asking for a movie page i was fully aware godzilla is a cameo my point i was trying to make is if Cameoziller here can get a

design (not an incarnation page to make this Abundantly clear) page at the very least i dont see why Seibuziller couldnt.

Les (talkcontribs)

You're not listening to what I'm saying. Godzilla the Ride and Always Sunset are not even remotely comparable. Always Sunset on Third Street 2 and Ready Player One are feature-length theatrical films which feature Godzilla and Mechagodzilla respectively but are otherwise unrelated to the site, so we have pages for those versions of the characters but not the movies themselves. The Godzilla the Ride short film already has a page that should have a synopsis on it, so an incarnation page would be redundant. Not to mention that we tend to shy away from individually covering versions of characters from short films, as I already said.

I know you're talking about a design page, but really Always Godzilla should just be converted to an incarnation page. The design from the Ride doesn't even have a name, and it would set a slippery precedent for having pages for non-film or television Godzilla designs. I don't like it.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Isnt Ultima a Television design though??

Also doesnt ultimas design page just use a fan name


Same with GareGoji and DougheGoji?

Les (talkcontribs)

I said "non-film or television"

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I misread

I feel short films at the very least kinda count because its technically still a film but well...short

I would oppose to Comercial designs however

It just feels a bit odd to have chibi godzilla but not discuss the design of that seibu godzilla anywhere on the site

Les (talkcontribs)

Chibi Godzilla is trademarked as a separate character and has his own multimedia franchise.

The amusement park ride's story should just be on its page.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

The story of the rides already covered im pretty sure not sure what else that page needs

Les (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Well crap footage of the ride and preshow was deleted

I think i saved the video for the ride however but i think i may had deleted it by mistake but im not sure

Has anyone else saved it?

Les (talkcontribs)

About the names, GareGoji has at least been acknowledged by Toho and DougheGoji & GyuraGoji are pretty universal among Japanese fans. I haven't seen a consistent name for the Ride design, probably because it's... just an amusement park ride. The main-line Godzilla designs are bound to have more recognized nicknames.

Making design pages for short films would mean a page for the design from G vs. G 2, too. It all just seems incredibly unnecessary.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I assume that extends to no incarnation page for G vs G 2 godzilla?


Also that brings up a question as to should gigans page mention his G vs G 2 design in the design section even

Its distinct and i feel its odd to not even mention it in the design section for gigan at least

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes and yes.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

My main issue really is i just wish that we had a way to catalog or go into details about these designs simply because its not discussed or mentioned anywhere and i feel they are distinct

This is just my opinion .

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I've begun to convert the Third Street Goji into an Incarnation page i just need some help with a few things

i also want to ask does third street count as being apart of the heisei era instead of being apart of the millennium series due to not being a Godzilla film?


Third Street Godzilla

Les (talkcontribs)

I guess so, yeah.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

EDIT

I Read the edited post

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Could you Please Stop spacing it im not trying to boss a mod here around but its just that the Teaser trailer literally spells it like that and that should be treated as the official spelling

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

File:Vlcsnap-2021-11-13-21h19m03s467.png


the English teaser trailer confirms this is the official English spelling even if it isn't "Grammatically correct" its still what the creators of the film call it

Les (talkcontribs)
This is literally also in the trailer a minute later.
"Virus King" makes far more sense. Wait until the movie gets picked up by an American distributor and we'll see how it's spelled.
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

the trailer also has a typo calling Giant Teacher "Gaint Teacher" if thats an indicator of anything

the Sci fi japan article went with and earlier in the trailer is Spelt VirusKing just because something "makes sense" doesnt automatically mean its the proper exact name or thing it should be

I'm pretty sure they are going with that spelling with the movie itself given that spelling was quite literally under the monster in an introductory way..

Les (talkcontribs)

Okay... so if you acknowledge the trailer has other errors, why are we picking and choosing?

SciFi Japan's press release for The Great Yokai War: Guardians also called Daimajin "Bushin" - they're not exactly the paragon of official spellings.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i don't think VirusKing is an error given the fact it was in a big stylized letter thing right in front of the kaiju which i think would be harder to mess up

while Gaint teacher was in a much smaller less stylized text

i also made an edit to the last post that should be reread i think

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Unrelated but I'm not sure if it was forgotten about but i still needed help with the japanese on my singular point character sandboxes

Les (talkcontribs)

You're right, I did forget. I'll get to them soon.

Les (talkcontribs)

The telop on Virus King might just be smooshed together and isn't even meant to be one word. Even if we assume it definitely says "VirusKing," the exact same trailer also uses "Virus King" so they are equally valid. It doesn't really matter what font one is written in. You also have to remember these are non-English speaking people writing out text in English, so some of it is going to be wonky. Even the title "Yuzo the Biggest Battle in Tokyo" is kind of weird with no punctuation. If SRS or someone releases the movie on home video and translate it "Virus King," I'd place that over the Engrish trailer.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

alright I'm gonna be honest


besides what i assumed is official..i just think VirusKing sounds cooler which is one reason I preferred that spelling but i should put bias aside

OOM-9 (talkcontribs)

Hello, could I please ask you a question? A friend of mine asked me if I could ask you about the validity of this Japanese Shin Godzilla book. There was a thread on it from TK that was active for a while a member even acquired the book and posted pictures of it, but I haven't seen anything new about it since, has it been confirmed to be official? It looks like it has a lot of fascinating information in it about the origin of Shin Godzilla https://www.kousakusha.co.jp/BOOK/ISBN978-4-87502-482-8.html https://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25966&start=80

OOM-9 (talkcontribs)

I hope you don't mind the bump, you haven't responded so I just wanted to please ask your thoughts on it

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

@Les could you Please answer this and not ignore it

i and many other people would like to know if this is official as well

Les (talkcontribs)

I ignored it because I have no idea. It seems to be published by a reputable company, but that doesn’t mean it’s canonical.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Then Shouldnt the matter be investigated in depth a bit more?

I feel it should be but im not equipped to do so myself.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)