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Are you gonna tell me why you erased the pilot of Kiryu in SRW?

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Summary by VaderRaptor

Resolved! ...hopefully.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Lets see what was this time.

Les (talkcontribs)

We are not an Evangelion wiki. Even if they were involved with Godzilla in the game, we don't need pictures of the characters standing.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Ok makes sense

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Now are you gonna tell me why you are removing the Trivia from my page?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I'm pretty sure the reason is because it's not that important to be in trivia.

Les (talkcontribs)

It is not "your page," first of all. We are entitled to make changes regardless of who published the page. Stating that 'this is the first time kaiju have appeared in this game' is obvious and does not need to be trivia. Most games Godzilla crosses over with are not inherently kaiju-related, but we don't put trivia on each of the pages stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared. We appreciate the contribution, but there's no reason to be so standoffish about improvements being made.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

First at all ofcourse it belongs to the list of pages I've made in this wiki. But now I feel like if good people were creating pages for this wiki and then you take all the credit for it.

Second the trivia states that it was the first time a Kaiju appeared on SRW franchise, not just the videogame. But eh whatever........

Ok.

Les (talkcontribs)

My dude, are you sure you understand the point of a wiki? Yes, you were the one who contributed the information and initially published the page. Great. That does not mean it belongs to you, nor that we are disallowed from editing it. How is removing a piece of trivia "tak[ing] all the credit for it"?

Something like Symphogear is a long-running franchise too, but it isn't inherently kaiju-related so stating a Godzilla crossover is the first time the franchise has featured kaiju should be fairly obvious. Magic: The Gathering is a massively popular franchise with countless expansions and they just recently had the first Godzilla crossover. Yet, we don't have trivia stating it's the first time kaiju have appeared because it's redundant and unnecessary. Arguing about this is pointless. I've told you my reasoning for why things were removed. Nobody is trying to steal glory away from you; no page belongs to any one person. This is a collaborative website where everyone is just as entitled to contribute as the next guy.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

^^^

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I think you didn't read well my comment, I said the page belongs to my list of pages created for the wiki, I didn't said it was mine mine.

Ok now I understand.

This is solved now.

Colossal Titan page

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VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I just want to make sure with you that the Colossal Titan page is ready.

Bringing Godzilla Down to Size

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FinalGoji (talkcontribs)

Is the page "Bringing Godzilla Down to Size" ready yet? It looks finished, but I just want to make sure.

Godzilla vs. Megalon

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FinalGoji (talkcontribs)

Hey Les, I saw that you listed Godzilla vs. Megalon as one of your favorite Godzilla films. It's one of mine too.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Jet Jaguar was the star of the movie , i don't want people to be like Godzilla!,Godzilla! all the time , this movie should be the box

office bomb instead of being a letdown

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

It'll be best to future proof other toho kaiju , than Godzilla himself.

Les (talkcontribs)

vs. Megalon and Final Wars are definitely feel-good movies. I can put either one of them on and not be bored with them. As ridiculous as they are, I love them.

FinalGoji (talkcontribs)

My thoughts exactly! Though, Final Wars is kinda slow at points.

Assault! Human!! Clips

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BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Hi, I noticed that you posted a comment in the old Wikia Godzilla wiki stating that somebody posted two clips from Assault! Human!! on YouTube. However, they have since been deleted and a new video of the show has surfaced (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPb0FFRmwik&list=WL&index=128&t=0s). Were the contents of the old videos similar to the new one, and if not, do you know how I can watch the old clips without purchasing the DVD you mentioned in the Wikia comment?

Thanks.

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, these are the same clips though in lower quality.

BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Were the older clips also dubbed over with the theme song?

Les (talkcontribs)

No. The clips are taken from a documentary-type film about a place in Japan, so IIRC there was simply a narrator talking.

BlueBraixen (talkcontribs)

Thanks.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

I wanna help the Ultra Wiki out with the Koseidon monsters and aliens, but I don't think I have a complete list, any chance you have a book with the Koseidon gang in it? If not, it's fine!

Les (talkcontribs)

The Koseidon monsters, characters, and vehicles are listed in All Kaiju Kaijin (First Volume) as follows (translations are my own):

  • Human Artillery Koseider (人間大砲コセイダー) / Go Toki (トキ・ゴウ)
  • Director Kaido (カイドウ長官)
  • Tetsu Himugashi (ヒムガシ・テツ)
  • Chikara Banno (バンノ・チカラ)
  • Mori Mori (モリ・モリイ)
  • Mari Haruna (ハルナ・マリ)
  • Urara Bukkusa (ブックサ・ウララ)
  • Princess Altashia (アルタシヤ姫)
  • Vicla G (ビックラG)
  • Koseidon (コセイドン号)
  • Faitus-1 (ファイタス1号)
  • Pteranodon (ティラノドン)
  • Triceratops (トリケラトプス)
  • Futabasaurus (フタバスズキリュウ)
  • Nipponosaurus (ニッポノサウルス)
  • Tyrannosaurus (ティラノサウルス)
  • Dimetrodon (ディメトロドン)
  • Inspector General Zaji (総監ザジ)
  • Godmess Soldiers (ゴドメス兵)
  • Giant Battleship Galmus (巨大戦艦ガルムス)
  • Godmess Fighters (ゴドメス戦闘機)
  • Killer Plant Sigma-1 (殺人植物シグマ・1)
  • Emperor Godmess (ゴドメス帝王)
  • Militant Destran (闘士デストラン)
  • Commanding Officer Jericho (ジェリコ司令官)
  • Dinosaur Gallius (恐獣ガリアス) / Dinosaur Gallius (Giant) (恐獣ガリアス(巨大化))
  • Commander Gomell (ゴメル軍団長)
  • Dinosaur Tank Demoth (恐獣戦車デモス)
  • Dinosaur Gibras (恐獣ギブラス)
  • Killer Dinosaurs (殺人恐獣)
  • General Kesnochi (将軍ケスノーチ)
  • Dinosaur Kinokong (恐獣キノコング)
  • Magma Killer Magmus (マグマ殺人マグマス)
  • Dinosaur Grandon (恐獣グランドン)
  • General Gavan (将軍ガバン)
  • Dinosaur Baribar (恐獣バリバア)
  • Dinosaur Gaos (恐獣ガオス)
  • Electromagnetic Dinosaur Eredon (電磁恐獣エレドン)
  • Gigi (ギギ)
  • Cyborg S1 (サイボーグS1号)
  • Alien Mosgiss (モスギス星人)
  • Cyborg KII (サイボーグKII)
  • Strange Creature Dakron (異生物ダキロン)
  • Jurry (ジュリー)
  • Cyborg BI (サイボーグBI)
  • Cyborg BII (サイボーグBII)
  • Dr. Kuramochi (倉持博士)
  • Artificial Dinosaur Franken (人造恐竜フランケン)
  • Akmaz (アクマズ)
  • Alien Horost Commanding Officer (ホロスト星人・司令官)
  • Alien Horost (ホロスト星人)
  • Supersaurus (スーパーサウルス)
  • Satarl (サタール)
  • Lizard Man (トカゲ人間)
  • Kiska (キスカ)

Wikipedia lists the additional names:

  • Venomous Space Serpent Gibra (宇宙毒蛇ギブラ) just before Gibras, who has the different subtitle of "Venemous Serpent Dinosaur" (毒蛇恐獣)
  • Dinosaur Pragia (恐獣ピラギア) after them but before Kinokong
  • Commander Gira Lama (ギラ・ラマ軍団長) between Magmus and Grandon
  • Gaos has a different subtitle of "Capsule Dinosaur" (カプセル恐獣)
  • Dr. Ogimura (荻村博士) just before Gigi, who has the subtitle "Killer Robot" (殺人ロボット)
  • Dr. Sabata (サバタ博士) after them but before Cyborg S1
  • Cyborg KII is spelled as Cyborg K2 (サイボーグK2号)
  • Plant Lifeform Cosmoplum (植物生命体コスモプラム) after Dakron
  • Dr. Kuroiwa (黒岩博士) and Cyborg Soldiers (サイボーグ戦闘員) between Cosmoplum and Dr. Kuramochi. The B Cyborgs are also spelled as Cyborg B1 (サイボーグB1) and Cyborg B2 (サイボーグB2)
  • Franken-1 (フランケン1号) just before Franken
  • Gonosuke Kishida (キシダ・ゴウノスケ), Cyborg Corps (サイボーグ隊), Tsumara (津村), Cyborg Guardmen (サイボーグガードマン), Dr. Dark (ドクター・ダーク), and Mysterious Figure Shiraki (怪人態シラキ) all before Alien Horost, who have the subtitle of "Nomadic Aliens" (遊牧宇宙人)
  • Nishiyama (西山), Cyborg (サイボーグ), Alien Yapoo (宇宙人ヤプー) after that. The Supersaurus is also given the name Ragu (ラグー)
  • Commando (コマンド), Professor Kisaragi (如月教授) and Monster Bemgun (怪獣ベムガン) after Satarl, who has the subtitle of Spacetime Superman (時空間超人). The Lizard Man's real name is also Dr. Munagata (宗方博士)
  • Robot Weapon Novah (ロボット兵器ノヴァー) at the end
Lamango (talkcontribs)

Thank you SO much! I'mma slap these bad boys on the Ultra Wiki Koseidon Page!

Summary by SkullIslandExplorer

Let’s stop clogging Talk Pages like this and let the Admins do their work.

Rope (talkcontribs)

please unlock the page

Rope (talkcontribs)

yoohoo

Les (talkcontribs)

The section has been alphabetized, but the page still has much work to be done. The protection is set to expire after a day but maybe I'll need to extend it. There is nothing you could possibly need to add to this page right now that you harass me about it on two separate posts. Now cool it. (And stop trying to call me like I'm your dog?)

Rope (talkcontribs)

I have just put a lot of work into that page and would like to work more on it. whatever

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

@Les: Hello, hope you don’t mind me barging in like this.


@Rope: Please read the following quotes:


“Your guys' trying to alphabetize the list is breaking the code, and I can't work on the page effectively when there are editing conflicts.” And, “You have to be careful of the way the cells of the wikitable are set up or else it will become completely destroyed like this. It's very delicate and requires more than just copy-pasting sections around.” - Les.


“If you start editing a page and someone else publishes their own edit before you publish theirs, it creates an edit conflict, requiring you to paste your changes back into the altered page, an extremely time-consuming process when dealing with the complex code contained in these tables. You're editing the page so frequently you're effectively blocking Les from fixing your coding errors.” - Astounding Beyond Belief.


Do you know what that means? They’re trying to tell you that editing conflicts will mess up the codes within a page. They know what they’re talking about, and I don’t even wanna know what would happen if something like that happened to a page. Have a good rest of the evening.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Okay Somebody tell me what is going on

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Okay, I give up.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

They just did.

Rope (talkcontribs)

I am confused

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)
Rope (talkcontribs)

I did but it makes no sense to me. dumb it down for me

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Your edits (if you keep doing what you're doing) will mess up the code on the page.

Rope (talkcontribs)

oh okay so i can continue when he is done

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Just ask him when the page is ready and maybe we'll have a talk page for organizing times to work on it.

Les (talkcontribs)

I have no idea what SkullIslandExplorer's talking about. It is not the edit conflicts causing the issues of the page, it's the sloppy editing of the table that breaks it. The edit conflicts just prevent us from doing something about it. This is a very extensive page and requires more than copy-pasting entries around and throwing dates into it. It still needs to be thoroughly organized and restructured, and it's something we need to handle. Your wanting to help is appreciated, but it isn't doing us any good right now.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

.... yeah, sorry about that. I’m not too smart when it comes to this tech stuff.

The H-Man (talkcontribs)

^Since someone is going to invariably ask for a dumbed-down version:

Your edits aren't up to the standard the site requires. The goal isn't to do as many edits as quickly as possible, it's to keep up the general appearance of the rest of the site. Continuing to sloppily edit just for the sake of editing is causing errors that are breaking the page's code.

The page is locked because the admins had to go in and manually fix all those errors. They couldn't leave the page unprotected because you guys are editing so fast and so frequently that you're canceling out the admins' work.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

To Rope and MinecraftJoe
Take a break to think about how low quality your edits are.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

.... or, maybe we can do the old fashioned way of fixing up other pages on this wiki, instead of having tunnel vision on specific ones. The fact that you focus entirely on the Godzilla in popular culture page instead of helping to contribute to the other 3,219 pages on this wiki baffles me.


Oh, and if you’re going to edit other articles, don’t swarm pages with edits, or the Admins will have to do this again (and I’m saying that because it’s very evident). And I’d prefer if we don’t mess up page codes, ‘cause that would suck. Just sayin’.

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Hey, I have been doing other pages, just I was the original one to notice this, or at least bring it to mind of everyone. Rope is the one who is constantly working on it. I just do a few organizations on it sometimes (which I thought were helpful) and then work on other pages. Everyone, dont get angry at me about this.

Rope (talkcontribs)

yo at least I do the work unlike some people who tell other people to do it

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Your missing the point.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Okay guys, I think we’ve clogged Les’s Talk Page enough. How about we just learn from this, put this behind us, let bygones be bygones, and move on with our lives? Does that sound like a good idea? I think so.

@Les, Sorry about the mess. Be safe and have a good day.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Vader raptor) Who cares Skull) Thanks

Rope (talkcontribs)

meant to say who cares to vaderaptor and thanks to skull

Rope (talkcontribs)

why did you protect godzilla in popular culture

Les (talkcontribs)

Your guys' trying to alphabetize the list is breaking the code, and I can't work on the page effectively when there are editing conflicts. I need to work extensively on the page to reformat it first before y'all start adding/changing things.

Rope (talkcontribs)

How is it breaking code. Astounding Belief told us to

Les (talkcontribs)
Rope (talkcontribs)

Can you reopen it by 4 oclock today

Les (talkcontribs)

Why?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I have nothing to do tonight and was going to work on it in my free time

Rope (talkcontribs)

yoohoo

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

I still don't understand why you closed it. We were just organizing it like ABB told us to

Rope (talkcontribs)

Yes exactly

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

He explained everything there is to explain; you're just ignoring his clarification for some reason.

Rope (talkcontribs)

No we are not

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

If you start editing a page and someone else publishes their own edit before you publish theirs, it creates an edit conflict, requiring you to paste your changes back into the altered page, an extremely time-consuming process when dealing with the complex code contained in these tables. You're editing the page so frequently you're effectively blocking Les from fixing your coding errors.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Oh okay, all I ask is that he opens it back up as soon as possible

MinecrafterJoe (talkcontribs)

Oh that makes sense. I just didn't understand the exact reasoning.

Rope (talkcontribs)

When are we going to be able to edit the page again this is rediculous. You have had all day to fix a small problem. Please hurry up

Rope (talkcontribs)

Aftershock iS a godzilla comic that came out this year in may

Les (talkcontribs)

Yes, but... do you understand the point of this page?

Rope (talkcontribs)

I thought I did

Les (talkcontribs)

It's to compile references and appearances of Godzilla in non-Godzilla related media. Like Godzilla being mentioned in Garfield, or him showing up on The Simpsons. There would be no point to putting licensed Godzilla comics on a page of non-licensed Godzilla appearances, especially when we have a page for Aftershock and every other official Godzilla comic or novel.

Rope (talkcontribs)

Oh okay sorry didn't think that one through. Although I have improved, I did do research on it this time before editing.

Alexander skarsgard character

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Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

in an interview, he gave descriptions of his character, it's also mentioned in Wikipedia.

Les (talkcontribs)

Not really much we can do with it until we get a name. Maybe Development section of the movie page.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

he didn't Tell his character name,but he gave a info about his character.