I decided i didmt want to clutter the cloverfield resource thread to ask this
But the Newest Kickstarter Calls it a Feature film now rather than a short.
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Murase says in the video, "However, we do not have enough funds to make a feature length film that can be shown in movie cinemas," and the campaign text says, "Although we have raised enough to shoot the movie from beginning to end, we are seeking support to make sure that we can reach the quality of special effects that fit in line with our original vision." That tells me it's still a short film.
Seems really confusing that the page calls it a Feature
The KS video i think was reused from the first KS i think but i didnt watch it because i assumed it was.
Ah, so it's just the video thumbnail that says "feature", I kept re-reading the text trying to figure out what you were talking about. xD
Since Murase's message is reused from the first campaign, safe to say it's become a feature and they just forgot to cut that part.
Unrelated but apparently Chris Elchesyn produced an Unfinished Prequel series to Kaiju Killer called "Black Hole Chronicles" apparently a few episodes was uploaded on the now defunct Blip.tv
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NmBDdUdAKYY
How should this be addressed?
It could be mentioned on the Kaiju Killer page, but shouldn't have its own page.
i mean i figured that its technically a lost series now anyway.
Weird question but would you mind if i decided to move the sandbox for the collossal robot under You're account given you seem to be the only person who really edited colossal and the original user seems no longer active.
It doesn't overly matter what user a sandbox falls under.
I mainly asked due to you being the colossal expert i think
The monster page could use some TLC (updating) at some point as well i think
It just seems nobody here wants to touch it at all.
...maybe because a bit of them are too young and cant watch an R rated film or just dont care because its not gojiller.
@Astounding Beyond Belief Apparently Demeking MIGHT have been based on a Novel or Manga from 1991 but nothing can really be found of it
the cover also appears to be the same as the movies poster
the name of the author seems to be Takeshi but the last name is too blurred to figure it out
and apparently there's like a 1998 NSFW film also called demeking (which probably shouldn't be covered ) if that's the case i assume it was based on this book as well?
i forgot to add to this should the 1998 thing be addressed at all or no?
The mangaka is the same person who wrote the film.
Demeking (1998) will not be getting a page, since we have a blanket ban on covering p*rn outside of brief mentions, and I'm not 100% sure it was actually based on the manga (the Amazon.co.jp listing for the DVD includes a plot synopsis which sounds completely different).
i didnt mean a page i ment a brief mentioning of triva or whatever
i sure don't want to watch it
Right, I was confirming that your instincts were correct. It can go in the Demeking the Sea Monster Trivia if we can verify it was adapted from the same manga.
but it appears to loosely be based on it from the non graphic images i seen
specifically some footprint pic
however i dont want to touch that at all
Yes, there's a kaiju. It could very well be a super-loose adaptation.
makes me wonder if they even got permission actually.
Would it be ok to provide Tubi Links on pages for some films that happen to be on there as well as provide the showa era godzilla uploads to those pages?
Yes, any legal streams are fair game to link to
Are we entirely sure legendary Ghidorah uses Legiana/ROTF sounds i listened to the video where that guy claims they are the same but honestly i don't hear it at all other than some slight similarity with high pitched sounds but it overall just doesn't sound like the sound effect or even an altered version of it to me.
What video?
Its on MV ghidorahs page
". as well as a modified screech previously heard in the 2009 film Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. "
the video in question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62gmmesXVzU
While the person in the video makes the clain that Legiana/ROTF decipticon sounds was used in ghidoraj but honestlt it doesnt really sound like the same sound effect at all not even altered its only vaguely similar because of a high pitch screech.
Even the uploader himself says its similar not that its the same
Yeah, it's not an exact match (although I wouldn't be surprised if they were made in similar ways).
Also the warbat page makes claims that it uses Nazgul noises i think..yet i dont hear it other than vague similarities
I forgot to ask where did that claim even come from?
"Some of their high-pitched screeches sound similar to the screams of the Nazgûl, or Ring-Wraiths, in Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings films. In the trailer for Godzilla vs. Kong, the Warbats briefly made a sound identical to the Xenomorphs in the Alien franchise."
I Also dont recall this new xenomorph claim.
Im confused i thought fan theories/speculation wasnt allowed?
"Godzilla's Atomic Breath is comprised of ionized gas such as plasma" on its own would be problematic, but TrueLivingCorpse hedges their bets with a "possibly" while supporting their claim with specific evidence from the films. I think such scientific examination of kaiju/superweapon powers is fine as long as it stays in Trivia. If you think their conclusions are flawed, that's another thing.
So recently a friend told me that apparantly the Singular Point Guidebook hints that the man in the post credit scene may not actually be Ashihara
Have you heard of this?
I have not.
Copy pasting what my friend told me
"according to MONSTROSITIES on YT the SP Guidebook does not actually call the guy in the post credits scene Ashihara"
Im not sure which video it is however
I also heard there was a g98 easter egg of like someones name on bowl cut guys mug that was involved in bronging g98 to japan or something but i cant recall where i saw it.
Do you know what im reffering too because i cant remember
Mistake post
The Terrifying Super-Simian
seems to be targeting me in particular for no reason.
Also i dont want to assume but is WikedUpZilla a sockpuppet account they both seemed to comment around the same time and respond to eachother.
Some people can't handle the threat of a ratio, I guess. They've been warned. If it continues, they're going in time-out.
That is a premature assumption, yes.
And he just made a sockpuppet and didnt even try to hide it
User:The dreaded super ape man
Which is also friends with WikedUpZilla
Yeah, I banned him four minutes ago :P
It seems now WikiedUpZilla is now just kinda spamming "Sup" on page comments now. Not exactly spam but seems to be strange behavior
https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Kong_of_Skull_Island_Issue_3#comment-35621
I will remind you once again that I know how to check Recent Changes
I forget and im just trying to help.
Appreciated, but this is a pretty simple matter.
So should Zillafoot get a page?
its a clear parody/homage to toku/godzilla/kong
(i mean its called Zillafoot) plus its cover takes from GvK.
I'd say the content of the film qualifies, but the production value is so chintzy that I'm not chomping at the bit to have it on here. I haven't even watched it yet, which is saying something.
I mean...you seen reigo vs ohga didnt you?
Plus uh
Konga TNT
Those at least have sequel/remake status going for them
My PC cant run blu ray disk is there a way to bypass that with any special software
I wanted to provide screenshots to some movies.
You would need a disc drive specifically for Blu-rays.
so a lot of triva is being like added by TrueLivingCorpse guy
I hope im not nitpicky but im not entirely sure how relevant some of it is. Such as MKG being the second cyborg
And mechagodzilla having rainbow beams and comparing it to barugon.
https://wikizilla.org/w/index.php?title=Mechagodzilla/Heisei&diff=prev&oldid=229961
Idk it just feels we are getting a bit too oddly specific?
I'm making my way through it now.
Would it be ok to use a pic from G vs G 1 as a placeholder pic for Gigans design in G vs G 2?
Its the same model from what i can tell
If it's a frame from the G vs. G 2 trailer, that should be fine for now. But I don't know how I feel about that design warranting its own infobox image, we don't have them for every single incarnation.
theres no good frames of it in the GVG2 trailer but its the same design used in GvsG1
Also Kumonga Manda and Gyaos pages are like that though
We haven't included Godzilland, Godzilla Island, and Godziban incarnations in infoboxes, including for Kumonga and Manda. Gyaos and Gamera's infobox images leave out their incarnations from the 2015 short. I don't think there are clearly defined standards for what gets an infobox image, but based on the rest of the site, the G vs. G 2 Gigan doesn't seem to qualify.
Now, an argument could be made for including all the things I mentioned above, but it'd take some work.
probably not following but should the 2015 designs be included in the infoboxes or do they need incarnation pages i feel i could manage that due to how short there history is
i also mainly asked because it is a distinctive design that appears in a film abit short one.
Gyaos doesn't have any incarnation pages at all. Gamera does, but I don't think there's enough information on the 2015 incarnation to warrant a new one.
G vs. G 2 Gigan is more distinctive than the various Godzilla Island and Godziban designs, to be sure. I'll think about it. Might be easier to make a call when we know more about the film.
so can the 2015 designs be added to the infobox?
also should gyaos get separate incarnation pages at some point?
Also the design section for gigan should be updated to include the G vs G 2 design as well i think
Question about Howl from beyond the fog
where exactly does "Amenosagiri" come from i saw the short and its never called that?
The official synopsis says it's the name of the lake Nebula hails from. So definitely not an alternate name.
i also need help i was trying to add the "Grim Dragon" RPO Mechagodzilla figure to the bootleg list some time ago but the page refused my edits and kept glitching the edits i gave up because it was so frustrating.
If it's giving you that obnoxious "you have been logged out" message, scroll to the bottom of the page and apply the changes again (you don't have to retype them).
Nah that wasnt the issue i was facing
It was a strange formatting issue
Its in the edit history if you go check its before my last edit where i said "i give up"
I added it, but I'll admit I'm not sure what I did differently.
@Astounding Beyond Belief Well uhh
this happened in the comments
Michael Dougherty#comment-35694
Mothra/Legendary#comment-35692
I'm not sure if my responses was "charged" but i had no other way of putting it.
(plus KoTm fans from my experience tend to be toxic and hostile over any opposing opinion over the film in a way that seems to be insecure about it but i may be assuming. )
I frankly don't get why are KoTm fans so unbearable over anyone disliking the film and rightfully expressing the right to criticizing it
You are going to have to get used to people disagreeing with your opinions on the Internet.
there's a difference than disagreeing and being an enraged hive of wasp..
pretty sure this is the latter
also shouldn't that be told to them because they seem to be getting hostile to me calling me "Absurd" and trying to shut me up from expressing my feelings on KOTM related pages.
I would really rather not get dragged into every single argument you have on this site.
i was wondering how should licensed music usage in films here be addressed since some of them isnt apart of the soundtrack listings.
That would definitely be a good thing to add - maybe make an "Other songs featured in the film" section on the relevant soundtrack pages.
i tried adding something like that to 10cls page how does it look?
Looks good, I tweaked a couple things
i forgot what about songs only featured in trailers like rampage for example using smashing pumpkins.
Those I'd confine to soundtrack page Trivia.
Also, if you're looking for lists of songs in American films, they're usually at the end of the credits.
wait why are some tracks on some pages in quotes but others are not??
I figured something was needed to distinguish between song and artist. Technically, every track should have quotes around it, but that would be an undertaking.
i forgot to ask
where was it ever mentioned brush of the god was originally going to be a short film the page doesn't address that it just says it expanded to full length
Looking at the Kickstarters, it's confusing enough that the expansion-into-a-feature part should probably just be cut. Murase says, "However, we do not have enough funds to make a feature length film that can be shown in movie cinemas" in the video for the first KS, but then the campaign itself says, "By the end of 2021, 'Brush of the God' will be released in theaters in Japan[.]"
Shouldn't that be mentioned that they initially said it was a short?
Sure, but be thorough in explaining it. Murase said "we don't have enough money for a feature" while asking for more money; that Kickstarter failed, but then they launch the second Kickstarter while saying that it being a feature is a done deal and they just want to make the effects better. Best I can make of it is that they reconfigured the story enough to be able to shoot a feature with the same amount of money.
I'm terrible about going about wording things and im just not sure how to go about it i really am not asking for you to do it its just not a strength i have at all
Well, you're not going to get any better without practice.
Ignore.
This may be a bit of an undertaking and probably hasnt been done for obvious reasons but
should marvel characters as long as it pertains to Godzilla related stories/history get pages in a similar deal to how we have AoT titans and MH mons?
same question goes for characters and monsters in the upcoming power rangers crossover comic as well btw
I've been mulling that over myself - can't give you an answer just yet. One distinction, I suppose, is that the creatures from the Attack on Titan and Monster Hunter movies exist in separate universes from their source material, while Godzilla's Marvel adventures took place in the same Earth-616 that's still generating stories today. Writing the full histories of the superheroes he crossed paths with would be totally impractical, but making their pages only about their exploits in the Godzilla, King of the Monsters comic seems too limiting. (Imagine Spider-Man's page!) I'm not sure how to strike a balance.
I think you might had misunderstood me i only ment their history WITH Godzilla and nothin else.
i suggest maybe brief summaries of who they are in marvels terms while mainly focusing on exploits and there history involved with godzilla not the entire history of the character.
if a specific characters history with godzilla is too brief then it wouldnt warrant one.
Also would the Hulk classify under monsters technically?
The Hulk never appeared in Godzilla, King of the Monsters, weirdly enough.
Where did that one panel come from then?
If you mean this, it's from the proto-letters page in the first issue, not the story proper.
Why was stats removed from La Carcagne, Rhedosaurus and Reptilicus?
Seeing the Toho/Daiei kaiju stats in The Encyclopedia of Monsters, which are not present in any known Japanese source (and we've looked at a lot of them), made it clear to me that the author just made them all up.
Edit: I took a look at the book on archive.org, and sure enough, page ix says, "Where the creature's size is not indicated in the original chronicles, a reasonable estimate has been made."
Also i forgot to mention and im not sure if you know this but
The Legend of Dinosaurs and Monster Birds plot is plagerized from wikipedia just reworded slightly.
Again, I can read Recent Changes. It looks like I started revising that but never finished. I'm just going to delete it for now.
Im Sorry neither the Dragma or episode page specified 2004. So i didnt know
No worries
So i dont mean to bother you but i noticed strange behavior from a user called Just a Plantae who comments some very bizarre things such as a tangent on fursuits on krystalaks page
https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Krystalak
And strange all caps yelling on this page seemingly directed at no one
Not strange enough to warrant disciplinary action.
Well now the guys spamming all capped angry messages on various godzilla the series pages.
Im sorry i just found it strange and that it could escalate overtime
I don't know how deep into the comments sections you've gotten, but we get a lot of strange comments. These did not really merit an alert.
how do you even take screenshots from streaming services?
I'm asking for myself and another user I'm speaking to.
The print screen button (sometimes shortened to prt sc on a keyboard).
I think i tried that but it came out black
For which service?
Late Response but here's proof prt sc doesnt work
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822486793239789638/930910299131895868/unknown.png
not sure if this link is broken or not but i didnt feel like uploading it to the site directly atm
Link's broken, but if you say it didn't work, I believe you. What browser are you using? I've never had any problems with Firefox.
Its not in a browser its the app when i try the browser it looks pretty low quality and not crisp enough.
The browser is Chrome btw
Try something here, I guess: https://www.alphr.com/take-screenshot-netflix/
I'm sorry but the browser picture quality is significantly worse than the app which was what i was trying to say to begin with
and even when i try the stupid video bar thing at the bottom is in the way
it doesn't seem there's a way to take it from the app it seems and im now lost as to how some screenshots look good
Netflix
Was trying to do it for cloverfield paradox and singular point.
Ive been meaning to ask
Was it ever even Confirmed the spider that appears with gamera in Kotm concept art was even kumonga i feel it was just assumed it was because it was a spider and someone pointed out it was lifted from a spider that appeared in the hobbit.
Calling a giant spider Kumonga seems like a pretty safe assumption when it's in the same image as Godzilla, King Ghidorah, Anguirus, Mothra, Rodan, Kamacuras, and Gamera. The screenshot from the Hobbit movie is interesting, but I'm pretty sure the Anguirus and Kamacuras in that piece are recycled images too.
But how can we be so certain at all?
theres a strange dragon serpent thing in the same concept that doesnt look like any existing monster
(Also can a higher res version be added eventually looking at the pic it is low quality)
plus theres really nothing to indicate its kumonga at all (such as color)
I was told off on being for certain snow godzilla was the G vs G model yet why is this assumtion ok?
That's an incredibly specific claim. I'll add a qualifier to the trivia, but that's as far as I go.
What part of thats specific?
It being the same model.
I hope its not a bother but i have two sandboxes for two singular point episodes im aware you probably have a backlog of things to do but mind checking them out?
There's not much I can suggest for those pages until they have synopses.
I hope you dont take any of this wrong but
Im just gonna be honest i dont think anyones going to bother with it given its been several months i have to ask Why cant you help with the synopsis at all? You did previous episodes
It seems nobody else on the whole site even wants to attempt to cover the series because the science stuff i myself am guilty for this but i cant even write a synopsis for the most Basic plot so theres that.
I really Would do it myself but the series is more complex than most films here.
Plus i heard some YT guy and apparantly gojipedia poked fun at the site for not even finishing it as i was told.
Word of advice: giving other wiki users assignments does not work. I'd like to write those pages, yes, but there are a million other things I'd like to write too (including episode pages for the other Godzilla show that dropped a bunch of episodes last year), and I only have so much time to spare. If you want them done post-haste, you're going to have to grit your teeth and put some words down. This is obviously something you lack confidence in, but as I've said before, it takes practice. And I'd be happy to make revisions.
As for Gojipedia, their users can boast about their Singular Point episode pages when they write actual synopses. Right now only the first episode has one.
Not sure if you knew this but i made an intresting discovery over the Origin of the La Carcagne name.
Now this is going to be strange but should we feature the actual reason CKC got scrapped ?? The fabricated 4chan duncan story is accepted as truth even though its totally bogus and not what happened at all and its kinda out of hand how widely accepted its became.
...on top of this i do apologize for reminding you that trainwreck existed
Yes, feature away.
Problem is im not entirely sure what exactly happened myself
i know some people made a video about it Kaiju Noir and i think some guy who made a Burger kaiju made a youtube video about it (not kidding about the burger kaiju btw).
but if i recall basically simon strange poorly managed the whole thing is the basic gist of it id have to look into those videos again.
not sure if the fabricated duncan and red story should be mentioned at all on the page because im not quite sure where it came from besides 4chan and yanderedev (yes no joke) perpetuated it as well.
EDIT here's the videos
I don't know the real story either (and I will confess to having zero interest in the game or its untimely demise).
Wait so why is there a page here again then?
and i guess may as well while I'm at it
reposting from a page but
Why is Minecraft here based on mods alone?
Theres literally tons of Godzilla mods out there for countless other games and nothing from those is covered for pretty obvious reasons so why is Minecraft here exactly again?
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Ok this may delve into speculation but i noticed some in interesting similarities between Methuselah and an entirely separate Hebrew entity despite his namesake
specifically the Re'em a Hebrew creature from Jewish mythology that's been described as a bull or ox among other things and is said to be the size of a mountain
to quote
"In Jewish folklore, the re'em was larger than a mountain and could dam the river Jordan with its dung. To survive during the deluge, Noah had to strap its horns to the side of the Ark so that its nostril could protrude into the Ark, allowing the animal to breathe. King David, while still a shepherd, mistook its horn for a mountain and climbed it, and then the re'em got up, carrying David up to the heavens. He prayed to God to save him, so a lion passed in front of the re'em. As the re'em bowed down to the king of beasts, David climbed off but was threatened by the lion. He prayed again, and an animal passed by so the lion could chase it and leave David unharmed."
basically it seems to be a bull the size of a mountain?
if i recall wasn't Methuselah described as a bull in official sources as well specifically the novel version of KOTM.
It's interesting, but I'd call a deliberate connection between them speculation, yeah.
Also - conversations about specific pages would be better-suited to talk pages. Makes them easier to relocate.
so I cant state anywhere that there appears to be similarities to the legend or address it at all?
If you can find proof it was a source of inspiration, sure.
i could of sworn similarities to things where pointed out on other pages without direct inspiration
as far as im aware the MV has never addressed the Re'em as a inspiration for Methuselah but i still think the similarities are uncanny and worth mentioning somehow if possible.
It's a gray area. In this case, I don't think the connection's strong enough. Why not just call the thing Re'em if that was what inspired the design?
frankly that is a fair question my only guess is its not as catchy if that's the case.
So is Kaisendon actually made with toho involvement or was it just the shin godzilla effects team who made it asking because the page list him as a toho monster
Please start using talk pages for questions like this, makes it easier to refer back to. (To answer: no apparent involvement from Toho itself.)
This is going to be stupid to ask but is constantly posting comments here in a short amount of time considered spam?
No.
