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Tokyo Tower picture mistake

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Unnecessary

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Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

What a wildly unnecessary and venomous message over a simple mistake. You can cool off for a week.

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The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Your snarky edit summaries are not needed. Thank you.

Rhedosaurus italics and numbers after nine

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

Rhedosaurus is a scietific name in-universe, and like any such name, it's italicized. Everyone knows that, and it's italicized everywhere else, so why remove it? I'd like to put it back, as I've been italicising scientific names on this site, real or fictional, wherever I found them (except for Toho's names Gorosaurus, Titanosaurus, and Godzillasaurus).

Also, "40-foot" is correct, as only the single-digit numbers are usually written out, while all numbers after nine are usually written as numbers to save space.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

numbers have never been used in. Actual descriptions only stats

Baragon Manda and Varan as Ghidorahs enemies?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Are we sure that counts?

an example i can think of is how Rodan in KOTM was siding with Ghidorah who opposed Godzilla but he never directly fought Godzilla so shouldn't the same logic that the three are not Ghidorahs enemies be applied here?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Counting them as Ghidorah enemies in DAM seems like a stretch, yeah. Worth noting that they fought him in the manga adaptation though.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Yeah im asking because im afraid if i undid the Undos les did i would just get in trouble.


But frankly i do not think they should be listed as Ghidorahs enemies because Kotm Rodan isnt listed as Godzillas Foe despite being on opposing sides.

Les (talkcontribs)

The monsters from DAM are often grouped together as the "Kaiju Allied Forces" - 10 monsters against King Ghidorah was central to the marketing. The implication is obvious that Varan and the other minor monsters are still enemies of King Ghidorah. It just seems like splitting hairs to me.

Honestly, I would call Rodan an enemy of Godzilla in KOTM, too. All of the monsters swarm around and glare at him before they submit.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Marketing doesnt mean much when compared to whats actually shown in the film I honestly do not agree. It should only count when monsters come in direct conflict with eachother.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Responding to the latest Rodan edits. Reposting and expamdong upon an edit message here.


Bowing to Godzilla doesnt mean he is an ally (Scylla for example fought him later in Dominion) i think listing Godzilla as an enemy despite the two never directly fighting is a Massive Stretch if not outright false because i honestly dont think snarling at eachother should even count as being ones enemy it just comes off as a big reach and isnt justified honestly.

Im not even sure if that edit was even agreed upon with other staff .

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Something that minor doesn't require staff coordination. I can't say I really care one way or another.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

if no one can agree on something what hope is there for some of the pages and how it should be handled???

that only leads to fighting and accusations if there isn't a solid agreement on how to handle it.


because to me i feel stating Rodan as Godzillas enemy then ally is outright false given the context (again just because he bows doesn't mean he is an ally, Scylla also bowed but then fought Godzilla in Godzilla Dominion) and being ones enemy frankly should only count if that monster directly comes into physical conflict with another monster (i feel some human characters are an exception such as Yun being listed as one of Ultimas foes for example) but i feel like listing the other bowing titans as enemies would also be a gigantic reach and I'm sure others probably feel the same way.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's pretty much at the bottom of the list of things we need clear rules for. Putting together criteria for what media the site should cover is my focus right now.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Ignore

Kong’s Roar

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Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

I’ve never even watched teen wolf. Plus in the elephant video, the comments confirm that it’s the same noise, just pitch-shifted. And that gorilla scream was used because it’s the only video we have of a gorilla actually “roaring.”

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I dont want to assume but Are you a sockpuppet account of gamedestoroyah?


Also if you never watched it why do you keep adding it back??

Its not relevant to kongs character but it being used in 2005 is.

GameDestroyah2008 (talkcontribs)

I have no association whatsoever with that person.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

No I am not. I swear on my life that I am not a sock puppet at all. I’m a totally different person. I kept adding it back because I read it on the official Godzilla wikia, I didn’t believe it at first but I typed in “teen wolf roar” and it was that sound to a T.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Sorry i assumed because he did similar edits about roars also

What "official godzilla wiki"?

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Gojipedia is a total joke and is in no way official.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

Okay. You got me there. But do you at least believe me about the other sounds?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Frankly i could care less about some stock sound sources

But if you are removing sounds made by another incarnation of the same character and replacing it with something less relevant then thats not good.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

I’m not trying to remove incarnations. I just feel that when it comes to how a creatures voice is made, then every animal used should be mentioned. For example. The universal stock roar was from an African elephant. And bears, lions and tigers don’t make shrill high pitched screams like that.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

The elephant ones comments are saying that that roar was used and the original uploader confirms it.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

This has nothing to do with what im talking about


Im talking about 2005 kong sounds being reused for GVK

Which frankly 2005s roars (all of them not that one clip you posted) need to be checked.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

I listened to many videos of all the sounds used in 2005, and that sound was not one of them.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Watching sounds alone isnt good enough all scenes with kong from 2005 should be checked.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

Okay. I’ll make you a deal. I will watch every scene with kong from 2005 and listen carefully. And if I hear that roar, I will gladly apologize, but if I don’t, then that edit can’t be in there.

Tobyv25 (talkcontribs)

Okay. I just watched the entire King Kong 2005 film from start to finish and that stock roar was not emitted at all

The Singular Point thing

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Lamango (talkcontribs)

The source of the video isn't second hand, and sites it's sources, several time, unlike the ones you posted for Rodan. :/

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

it was undone from for the same reason when i tried to add it to rodans page plus you didn't bother with adding cites.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Was it from someone who digs into research and interviews staff members of the said projects?

List of Sandboxed page?

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Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

Hey, i tried looking for your List of Sandboxes page and nothing came up, think you could send a link for me?

Les (talkcontribs)
Mechagodzilla2008 (talkcontribs)

Thanks!

Which non-Toho kaiju next?

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Tarbtano (talkcontribs)

You got a good eye for this. After the Paleosaurus is complete, which monster do you think should be tackled next? Figured collaborating would make the whole thing more thorough.

PS: apologies for the lengthiness prior, just felt you were owed an explanation :)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

its fine i really just didn't feel like reading that since you made the point clear with the undo message you left on its page


there's Quite a bit that need overhauling and ones who havent even been published yet

if you have discord i feel it would be easier to discuss there.

but if not a few prime examples that stick out are the Rampage cast

Ralphs design section could be updated and George is still in sandbox


Ralph


User:The King of the Monsters/Sandbox/George


Lizzie

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

He moveth his tail like a cedar

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Summary by Zillaman98

Mucho Texto

Tarbtano (talkcontribs)

Job 40:15-17

15 Behold, Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox.

16 Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together.

Just to clarify, as I have done a theological study on this exact subject for a talk I was invited to, the current consensus is that whatever it was described in the Book of Job was not necessarily an animal with a long tail. The phrase "he moveth his tail like a cedar" (sometimes "stiffens his tail") is translated from a Hebrew word which has an action verb. The Lebanese cedars known to the Hebrew audience at the time are very flexible trees so using them to compare to something bending makes sense. Whether the subject described had a tail that was big like a cedar tree is not clarified. But other passages describing it as having external genitalia ("his stones"), eating grass like an ox would (chewing), and ancient illustrations depicting it do support the entity described, real or mythic, as mammalian.

That's why the theological consensus, if this is not a mythical entity like the Greek Chimera, is that the description is of some kind of hoofed animal or elephant. So the idea that it has a huge tail like a cedar and that disqualifies a large mammal is not exact to the text.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I didnt need this overly long clarification over something already undone.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Why can't Fake Godzilla be mentioned on his trivia, several of fans theorized that MV G could be FakeG, even a friend of mine and the famous theories channel "The Film Theorists". I really think this should be mention.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

>Mattpat

No

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

What about Methuselah's trivia? It says that he was frequently mistaken for Anguirus by fans after the trailers, that's not so different.