Topic on User talk:The Boy Who Cried Godzilla

so im just curious as to why exactly did you make charlie a page already when the characters history isn't filled out and is missing a personality section shouldn't it be in sandbox?

Hello. While I appreciate your civility in the message here, and I assume good intent in all your actions, I just want to give you an informal warning about doing stuff like that before talking to someone. While I am not here to boost my ego and tell you that what I say goes, as I am a site administrator, would it be too much to ask that you not assume I don't know what I'm doing? Blanking a page because you disagree with it is not something we take lightly here, regardless of who made it. If you wanted to put the deletion marker in, thats your call, but I strongly advise you to take matters like this to staff members before making these kinds of calls. Once again, I am operating under the assumption that your intentions were and are in the best of faith, but the ways you treat fellow editors can come off as rude at best and egotistical at worst. I am not here to leverage accusations against you, in part because you are a diligent editor, and I believe you are acting with pure intentions, but I cannot stress enough how blanking a page like that is unacceptable. This is not a strike or a warning or however you'd like to put it, but a reminder that this is a collaborative space, where we all have to work together for the sake of accuracy in our information, and taking these personal choices without consulting others is not how we try to operate.

Now to answer your question. Sandboxes are for incomplete/fringe pages. We have been trying to clean up some of the oldest pages here from a time when such work was considered acceptable. That said, while a stub may not be ideal, it is still a viable page waiting for expansion, and our dedication to sandboxes have sort of backfired in a way, as now few people can locate the pages to work on them, but that is beside the point. I have put a lot of work into television characters and monsters, and while I have tried to fix them up to current standard, few if any yet contain detailed accounts of their roles in each episode. I am working to fix this, but, many empty history-based subheaddings does not make an article fit for deletion or relegation to a sandbox. The page, when published, had a solid foundation from which to build, and I, or any other editor could add to it. As I said, this is a collaborative site. If the Charlie sandbox from before I began work on it today had been published, with no history, no text, and no image, that would be fit for sandboxing. I will not pretend that it is/was complete, as few if any pages are, but it was a start. Perhaps I should have used the Under Construction header, but I digress. In response to the ither part of your query, we arent really set on if personality sections should be in character pages, as its not always the case that there is enough to say that wouldn't fit elsewhere in the page, or be self explanatory by the character's actions, but this is currently being discussed.

Now I realize I can be long winded. Did that make sense to you? Do you have any questions? I'm glad to help if you do.

i was acting in good faith i just assumed you forgot about the sandbox for a moment and i actually initially thought it was a sandbox until i looked at it again.

plus there are a few sandboxes with even more than what Charlie's page had and still haven't been published yet.

Its all good, man. Like I said, the sandboxes have kind of morphed into their own set of problems compared to those they were created to resolve.

i promise i wasnt trying to vandalize or do anything like that

i also thought the sandbox list was to help make it easier for users to find them what's the other issues with the sandboxes?

Yeah, but again, the sandbox system is not ideal for its purpose at this point. I won't say its not helpful, but the way its being used currently isnt hugely conductive to readability and such. But we're working that out, and ideally the stub/cleanup template and their associated cstegories will help identify pages in need of tlc in the future. In short, we'll be looking into sandboxes shortly. If you want to compile a list of ones you think are ready to leave the nest as it were, I/we would gladly take a look :)

Its this one https://wikizilla.org/wiki/User:MosuFan2005/Sandbox/Greater_Rathalos

Idk what else needs to be done.

im extremely glad to see it finally be moved to a page theres a better image of the creature from the behind the scenes of the movie showing off its model but i only got access to a low quality youtube video of it i got no way of finding this in better quality but i feel this would be ideal for a new infobox image

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yeah the infobox picture is unideal, and I think the history should be expanded with more context, but I haven't seen the film, so I don't have a great baseline for work on the page.

ive seen the film and im pretty positive thats the entire history of the monster actually

well yeah, but it uses a lot of what I call "lore terms" that might require additional reading to understand. I like to add a bit of context, but that's probably just a me thing

wait i just recalled it was missing the parts where it didn't appear onscreen but its existence was being alluded too.

Heyo hopefully im not bothering but you mind to review some of the rampage monster pages at some point?

Ralph

Lizzie

George

i feel they could all use a bit more but if you are too busy at the moment that is understandable.