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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Titan of Water/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

A couple of quick questions

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

1. Do you have an account on Scified's Godzilla news site?

2. If yes, then what exactly was "the laugh" that they killed off Dr. Graham for?

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

1. Yes I’m on Scified. 2. Michael Dougherty literally said, “I wanted to add some black comedy to film so I decided to have Sally Hawkins get killed in a comical way by getting eaten by Ghidorah.” That isn’t verbatim but it was along those lines.

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

I think the joke was supposed to be that “ha ha, you thought you’d spend the entire movie with Sally Hawkins this time nope. And we’ll have her be killed in a comical manner.”

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

Does that make sense?

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Also, no, that doesn't make sense. What he said, I mean.

Now, I don't claim to be an expert on black comedy, but let me give you an example of what strikes me as black comedy.

A burning train speeding towards a couple of people on a railroad bridge. That's just terrifying. But a burning train speeding towards a couple of people on a railroad bridge while blaring the Thomas the Tank Engine that's funny, at least for me. It's just so ludicrous and over-the-top that even when people are dying you're too amused by just how absurd their deaths are.

Y'know, I've been defending Mr. Dougherty and his movie ever since it came out, but now I'm starting to wonder (yet again) if the critics are right...

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

I still like KOTM. I’m not trying to defame it or crap like that. I was just shocked and mad from what I thought I heard. Maybe I interpreted what they said wrong. But I did not lie.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Yeah, I still like it too. Maybe they thought that they could get away with it because of how much of a background character she was. I mean, my own mother said she was too "mousey", so maybe they were kind of on to something. In a weird, twisted sort of way.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Honestly, the way the scene was framed didn't strike me as black comedy. I took it to mean "yeah, NOBODY's safe this time around...not even the returning characters". Mark and Serizawa's reactions really drove that home.

To be fair, Graham never really affected me one way or another as a character. Across both movies, she didn't really do much.

On a side note, I've been toying with the idea of making a fan-rewrite of the film someday, and I kind of want to explore the relationship between Serizawa and Graham, painting her as the person Serizawa wants to succeed him in Monarch if something happens to him. Sort of a protege, if you will. Her death would also happen BEFORE Godzilla shows up, and it's impact would be felt a lot more for Serizawa.

Just musings from a writer-in-training.

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

Well you can see the audio commentary for yourself. Part of it WAS to show that “no one is safe”, but they also did put it for black comedy. I would never lie about this kind of stuff.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Oh, I don't think you'd lie about it. I guess I was just shocked myself.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Y'all haven't seen Dougherty's other movies, I take it? He held back on the gratuitous murder for this one.

Titan of Water (talkcontribs)

It’s not really how she dies that’s the problem for me. It’s the fact that she died for lulz after being an interesting character in 2014 we barely got to see and wanted to see more of in the sequel. Not to mention being played by a extremely talented actress. It just feels like disrespect to me. You may feel differently, but that’s just my opinion.

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