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Godzilla Aquatilis and Ultima aren't the same Godzilla?

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Summary by Les

Arguing is going nowhere.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Same as above

Les (talkcontribs)

Unclear. Neither of them have appeared in the show yet.

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Shinomura (talkcontribs)

I think both are the same

Les (talkcontribs)

They are listed separately on the Singular Point site, unlike the Rodan. There's no reason to believe they're the same until it's seen in the show.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

See?

I knew Ultima and Aquatilis were the same Godzilla, also according a leak Ultima is not Godzilla's last form.

The last form from last episode makes Shin Godzilla look tame.

Les (talkcontribs)

From what I've heard of it, that "leak" frankly sounds like bullshit. There are only 3 episodes left and no more Bandai toys confirmed.

Plus, how silly would it be to name a form Ultima ("final") and have it not be the final form?

MonsterverseTitan (talkcontribs)

Have you also heard of another "leak" that says that Godzilla is a destroyer but not exactly evil, while salunga is a creator but is evil and that both are forces trying to destroy each other, and that the two will fight.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Well the "bullshit leak" you're talking about has been correct in all his predictions so far.

Also there has been mentioned a lot of 4-Dimensional/Universe destruction stuff in the series, it would be silly not to show a 4-D form of Godzilla.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

That leak also said that the spider monsters are man-made Meganulon and we know that isn't true.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

And additionally, it says that there's a "Rodan Totus" that has Godzilla spines but isn't related to Godzilla. That doesn't even make any sense.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

Oh, and it called Salunga Gabara. Other than the Varan prediction, it hasn't got one thing correct.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Hmm I don't remember being talking to you @Gorogera?

Why people like to enter on other people conversations in this wiki without invitation?

Also that guy obviously gave the monsters names from the first monsters that came up in his mind.

To be honest a lot of people would have called Godzilla Aquatilis Titanosaurus, Salunga to Gabara as many people did time ago and the Kumongas to Meganulons cause heck they don't look like Kumonga. My point is that it doesn't matter how they call it in his post, still accurate.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

1: The leaker would have to be blind in order to think Kumonga and their variants are Meganulon.

2: You flat-out ignored Rodan Totus and the incorrect origin given to the "Meganulons", major evidence that the leak is fake.

Les (talkcontribs)

Stop trying to hide other peoples' messages, they can respond to this if they'd like.

If this is supposedly someone with inside knowledge about the show, they wouldn't be using the incorrect names. There are only three episodes left in the series anyway. I doubt we're going to get another Godzilla form, a random reveal that the skeleton is alien, and that there are manmade Meganulon in those last three episodes. Why believe leaks when we'll know everything for sure in another three weeks?

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Oh I see.... yeah, why a Kumonga with wings could be mistaken by a Meganulon?

I wonder why?

https://wikizilla.org/wiki/File:Kaiju_8_full_1.png

Also I can notice you can't read very well, cause it says "Rodan Totus (The Godzilla spined one).... none part says both are related.

He comparared Rodan to Godzilla due to have spines.

Refering to this one:

https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Godzilla_Singular_Point/Gallery#/media/File:GSP_Rodan_03.jpg

About the Meganulons origin.... the show still has three episodes to be aired. We'll see..

We will see..

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Also no mean to be rude, is just if I talk to a mod... is to hear him/her opinion not the opinion of other persons. But then every person wants to give their opinions here, it turns into a mess. So yeah I don't like that.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Soo the leak was right.... G Ultima is not G's last form as he will evolve into a 4-Dimensional god.

Proof is here.

BoopN00dle (talkcontribs)

since I'm still learning Japanese so I can't confirm this, though remember: don't trust Google Translate. Though the other bios are pretty spot on. Also the leak had at least part of it deconfirmed with the Kumonga trio.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

It isn't right. Sure, Ultima may evolve again but that doesn't undo the wrong names for Salunga and Kumonga, the paradoxical Rodan Totus, or the strange absence of the Mothra swarm being mentioned.

BoopN00dle (talkcontribs)

yup. Also why is Google Translate so good for Salunga's bio: "A terrestrial bipedal monster that appeared at an archetype research facility in Upara, northern India. Shows extremely high athletic ability. Locally, it was called by the name of Sharanga, the bow of Vishnu, because of the pattern on the forehead. Later, the Japanese who answered the interview spread the name of Salunga."

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Hmm guys how many times I have to say the name that person gave to some monsters doesn't REALLY matter?

Yes, he called thhe Kumongas Meganulon but for Christ sake who the hell calls Kumonga a spider with wings?

He also mentioned their true form is Hedorah which is RIGHT, soo yeah he was referring to the Kumongas. Also I don't remmember they to be called Kumongas on the show.. it was LATER confirmed on the bios from the official website that their name was Kumonga.

What paradoxical Rodan Totus?

STOP Gorogera ...I can clearly read in the leak he was referring to the Rodans with Godzilla spines, but he never mentioned Rodan to came from Godzilla.

Yeah, he didn't mentioned Mothra..... and?

The other info is right, so mentioning an spoiler or not doesn't change that the leak is right.

BoopN00dle (talkcontribs)

calm down son, it's just a tv show leak.

Also, the names do matter because it gives (or takes away, in this case) the leak credibility. Also you can't simply say that something is right or wrong like this. There is evidence for both sides of the argument, but you can't say it's "right". Also we have no evidence that the Kumonga trio are manmade or even related to Salunga. The rest could be simply taken from inferences. Anyhow, while I am up for CIVIL discussion, please do not be snarky or rude.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Hmm I'm simply saying the true and also I was here talking to Les...

But then all persons in this wiki started to talk here, soo it turned into a mess.

I don't know which is the point to talk to a mod if the whole wiki users are gonna start interrupting with their own comments.


Also there stills one more episode to go.

BoopN00dle (talkcontribs)

Yup! I'm excited to find out if the leak is right. And also: people are allowed to come to other talk pages, and this wasn't a thing that seemed simply for Les, so people thought they could join in on this interesting conversation.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

It was only mean for Les though.... I have never entered on other people conversations even if is allowed, also if I would have known people was gonna came here and start saying the whole leak is false I wouldn't have shared it here.


Like is pointless to talk to that people, they don't hear arguments and they are always right (even if not) lol

OOM-9 (talkcontribs)

The information from this leak is contradictory to the information the show has presented. The leak claims that Godzilla is an alien, yet the Rodans with his spines are from Earth. Additionally the Kumongas came out of Manda and did not originate from Salunga in any way. While the leak is compelling it's contents flat out contradict what the show both tells and shows us, meaning AT BEST this leak is from a much older version of SP and the SP we have has clearly deviated significantly from it. For myself I don't trust the information from the leak and the contradictions we have don't give me any reason to have faith in it

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

""While the leak is compelling it's contents flat out contradict what the show both tells and shows us""


Godzilla is a 4-Dimensional creature.... aka Alien, not from this world (universe). None monster are from Earth, all came from the 4-Dimension. (I'm guesing someone is not paying attention tho the show) lol

Also as far as I can notice you don't understand fully the anime either. The proof of that is that since first episode has been explained the 4-Dimensional stuff, end of the universe and monsters not coming from this world etc. yet to you they are from "Earth". See?

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

If the "leaker" knew they were from the 4th dimension, they would've said that.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

Also, about "Rodan Totus", why would it have Godzilla spines if it wasn't related to Godzilla?


Plus, why isn't Godzilla Terrestris mentioned? Oh, that's right. The leak is a fake.

Gorogera (talkcontribs)

Oh, and the leak's origin for the bugs is wrong.

Les (talkcontribs)

I'm closing this thread. If you want to keep arguing like children over fan theories, take it somewhere else. I haven't been involved in this conversation in weeks and it's just spamming my notifications.