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Why was that deleted theres plenty of pages now that warrent such a category Especially the Singular Point monsters

I implore you to stop creating categories without consulting anyone first.

I said on the Apceros talk page that I don't see much use in it. Other people should agree on it either way. Not to mention you're shoving wildly different concepts of "other dimensions," "alternate timelines" and "parallel universes" under one category. With that broad a definition, most of the characters from Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah could fall under that category. The origins of the monsters from Singular Point are also incredibly unclear.

I feel you just dont understand what im getting at.

Archtype was clearly stated to be multiversal in nature and that singular points exist in other universes its clear the kaiju are spawned from it

We absolutely have enough topics that warrent such now

Between SP MH Void ghido and maybe clover it feels disingenuous not to adress this in some form.

Give me a single line from the show where they confirm Salunga, Anguirus, Manda, Rodan, or Godzilla Ultima come from another "dimension" and I'll believe you. I think you're making this out to be way simpler than it actually is; the show is unbelievably confusing and does not explain any of its concepts with certainty. There's also evidence that Archetype exists in our universe because Ashihara was studying a species of jellyfish that contained Red Dust. You could speculate "those jellyfish came from another reality" but that doesn't make it canonical. I think it's best not to make assumptions with a show that can be interpreted a hundred different ways.

There was one scene that said Singular Points seem to originate from other universes

I dont think the show is supposed to spoonfeed the viewer you are supposed to like put together pieces the show sets out

But maybe if it was to ever get a second season they will elaborate more.

Instead of a category if thats not allowed could a page about the concept of multiverse/alternate dimensions i feel we have enough pieces of media on the site now that showcases the concept and we have a page for blood so..

I will say that it is true that the origins of the Singular Point monsters are ambiguous, archetype itself is said to be multiversal/multi dimensional intersecting into different realms. its not said whether that's alternate Earths or just dimensions in general if its the latter that would classify them as multi dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial.

I would say the Futurians and the Pacific Rim aliens are a great example and comparison. The Futurians are clearly characters that originate from Earth just in a potential far future, while the PR aliens are beings that didn't originate from Earth but also exist in a different dimension.

I agree with you both that the categories require consultation, and that it is time to look into the categories and settle on new specialized and general categories for the new media

OOM-9 gets it

Basically some Extradimensional things ARE Alien while Others are just alternate humans

I do think a page on the concept of Alternate Realities/dimenions/universes could still work given a bit of kaiju related media explores or uses them.

Yes... that was my entire point on the Apceros discussion. Being extradimensional is not a factor in determining if something is alien. If it's from Earth, regardless of what universe or timeline, it's not an alien. If it's not from Earth, then it's an alien. They are different concepts.

wait so if an alternate reality or universe has no earths but has life in it does that make them alien

more of a random question

I Wasnt sure on Apceros because i honestly didnt even know of the MH world counted despite having humans.

You said the MH world is an alternate Earth, so assuming that's true, then I wouldn't call the creatures aliens.

Huh i did?

i said it was one but i assumed due to the fauna being different i wondered if that counted as alien

Oh I see, I misread. You said it was "Earth-like." I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know any of the context.