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Stats on Kong, MG, etc

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KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Why were they deleted off the infoboxes? Pretty sure they’re official.

GojiTheKing2019 (talkcontribs)

Idk maybe need actual photo?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

They are official. But may be because they need high res scans?

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

The booklet from which these stats come is not remotely a reliable source. While the statue it came with may be officially licensed, the information within it is wildly inconsistent and unreliable, and thus not acceptable for an infobox.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Example?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

That makes little to no sense to totally disregard it because of inconsistancies (which have been addressed before on various other pages). if it came with a piece of official merch then it should be treated as such, other pieces of merch have been used as sources for other things to my knowledge.

Official inconsistancies still should be noted elsewhere on the page.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix reply button pls

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Exactly.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

I believe it's official because of that King Ghidorah render on his page, because I never saw that render in any of the media (at least, not in full body)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

It was already stated it came with official merch, the Inconsistent info should not be disegarded entirely due to this and should be mentioned somewhere on those pages.

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

I don't know, it seems like a shoehorn to me - relying on some random booklet for important character stats?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix the reply button

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

Best to ask about technical site problems elsewhere.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

I did not mean to indicate that we will pretend this booklet does not exist whatsoever, but the most we will is maybe include notes stating that a dubiously canon booklet gives alternate stats. The figure may have been licensed, but that does not mean Toho or Legendary signed off on or even looked at the accompanying booklet. The booklet is inconsistent with previous stats and seems to have completely invented several of them, and even includes several pieces of fan art. For example the stats it gives for MUTO Prime are suspiciously similar to the ones previously invented for it by Toho Kingdom's fan made KWC.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Its been well established by now that the MonsterVerse as of GvK has plagerized fan-art, (actually they stole fanart in birth of kong as well) the usage of fan-art has no bearing on not mentioning it its still very much accompanied with an offical piece of merch.

The opening of GvK itself gave godzilla stats that was stolen from a dubious fan made thing if i recall.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Reply button still busted

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Yes, but the difference is that the dubious stats in GvK actually appeared in the movie, and even then we do not include them in the actual infobox but only in notes. These stats were pulled out of thin air for this merchandise specifically, and unless they reappear in something else official I don't hold them as particularly compelling.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im not against mentioning them in notes as they should be mentioned somewhere, But what about various other instances where Merch is used as a cite to back things up though.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

In other instances like that the merch in question is usually more reliable or backed up by existing material.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

How about now?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

Then, should this mean that we’re able to include these with no trouble now?

MonsterverseTitan (talkcontribs)

Do you have the link to where you got this screenshot from?

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)