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The King of the Monsters

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:The King of the Monsters/Archive 2 on 2019-04-29.

Gyaos sandbox

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

ok so uh...whhhy did you like remove a huge chunk of the sandbox instead of just building off of it?


i didn't really edit the page I'm just confused and curious as to why exactly it was neutered`

"Gojira" (1954) Stop-motion . . . ?

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Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

While watching Gojira (1954), I noticed that there were two scenes that contained what looked like stop-motion. I knew that stop-motion had been considered for the film, but was ultimately scrapped in favor of suit-mation. I had made a comment on the movie's page, and I was told to contact a moderator about it. If you want, here's the timestamps:

58:28 (one of the fire trucks swerving and falling on its side)

1:03:58 (Godzilla swinging his tail into a building)

I'm simply wondering what to make of it. Anything helps!

Gyaos (2015)

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Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I am currently editing Gyaos' incarnations page, and I was wondering: should the Gyaos from the 2015 short get their own incarnation? Or do they not have enough information, and need to be sent to the list of minor mosters or just the general Incarnations page?

Les (talkcontribs)

We have a policy against making pages for short film incarnations. That version can be covered on the main Gyaos page.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

wait can that ones design be mentioned on the main gyaos page then?

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Yes...

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Thank you! That's what I figured, I just wanted to be sure.

question about the SP Rodan infobox pic?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

wait so why was that undone? last time i checked i didn't think infoboxes displayed forms based on chronological order, Destoroyahs main infobox image being displayed isn't his Micro form and Shin Gojis isn't the first form so why exactly was it changed back to the first form Rodan?

the second forms had much more screen-time overall than the first form which would make them the most prominent form featured and going by how Destoroyah and Shins infoboxes go shouldn't that be the main image displayed?

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

Maybe image quality? I am also curious about why you made that edit KOTM

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Perfect Destoroyah and 4th Form Shin Godzilla are objectively the most prominent forms, not based on screentime but simply marketing and how often they appear in other media and merchandise. SP Rodan is almost entirely represented by the 1st form in marketing for the show and merchandise, with the only real prominent merchandise of the 2nd form being the S.H. MonsterArts figure. I'm not saying 1st form is objectively more prominent than the 2nd form, but I think it's close enough that it makes the most sense to simply go in chronological order in this instance.

MechZilla74 (talkcontribs)

Is there a way to see who voted on polls? I wanna make sure that people aren't rigging the votes for my Godzilla Hall of Fame event.

Hey there, may I ask a question?

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Plantcell (talkcontribs)

I've been curious on the history of Wikizilla, and I was looking into the split with the fandom site (the pages on Wikizilla and Gojipedia don't cover it). I was wondering if a few people who were actually there would tell me what went down. I spoke to a few people on Gojipedia, but I wanna hear both site's stories. Thanks again, Plantcell

Daimajin in Urusei Yatsura

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Lamango (talkcontribs)

More fitting for 'in popular culture' or was that page removed?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I also want to know why this was removed

I saw pics and it looks like Daimajin.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

We need more information than just "Daimajin appeared in Urusei Yatsura," as it features unlicensed cameos from numerous kaiju. And if it is a clear reference to Daimajin it does not belong on the Daimajin page itself but the popular culture page. We have been trying to remove unlicensed cameos from trivia sections and the outdated "sightings" sections on monster pages.

The edit was vague and the grammar was unacceptable for the site so I simply removed it pending more information.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Well, Lum creates a robotic teacher, names it Daimajin. I just don't know if it's good enough for popular culture, since that seems more dominated by Godzilla stuff.

Lamango (talkcontribs)

Should also point out, it's not a 1 second cameo of a background reference. Daimajin's in both the manga and the anime, and is present through out the chapter/episode, named and all. Dunno if that counts for anything.

Gigan Miles removal from Gigan?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Why exactly was Gigan Miles removed from the base Gigan Page i just dont feel they are distinct enough from Base Gigan honestly,

Also why is the history of Miles still there?

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Gigan Miles and Gigan Rex will be individual pages, the history section will be condensed and direct readers to their individual pages once they are complete.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im just not sure if the Gigan Miles are very Distinct from normal Gigan honestly so it kinda just seems a bit uneeded.

They share basically the same abilities and the only main difference is they are multiple of them.

Les (talkcontribs)

We're applying similar logic as with the Godziban characters. The Miles are a Gigan but they're not the Gigan. Having a distinct name seals it.

Recent edits on Godzilla

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Daimajin1966 (talkcontribs)

I just want to tell you that Astonshing Beyond Belief said that it's dorsal plates. So please don't change it.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

"Plates" and "fins" are both used officially, either one is fine and they are basically synonymous. What ABB and I are trying to eliminate is the old outdated "scutes" template.

Stats on Kong, MG, etc

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KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

Why were they deleted off the infoboxes? Pretty sure they’re official.

GojiTheKing2019 (talkcontribs)

Idk maybe need actual photo?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

They are official. But may be because they need high res scans?

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

The booklet from which these stats come is not remotely a reliable source. While the statue it came with may be officially licensed, the information within it is wildly inconsistent and unreliable, and thus not acceptable for an infobox.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Example?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

That makes little to no sense to totally disregard it because of inconsistancies (which have been addressed before on various other pages). if it came with a piece of official merch then it should be treated as such, other pieces of merch have been used as sources for other things to my knowledge.

Official inconsistancies still should be noted elsewhere on the page.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix reply button pls

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

Exactly.

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)

I believe it's official because of that King Ghidorah render on his page, because I never saw that render in any of the media (at least, not in full body)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

It was already stated it came with official merch, the Inconsistent info should not be disegarded entirely due to this and should be mentioned somewhere on those pages.

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

I don't know, it seems like a shoehorn to me - relying on some random booklet for important character stats?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Fix the reply button

Harryhenry (talkcontribs)

Best to ask about technical site problems elsewhere.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

I did not mean to indicate that we will pretend this booklet does not exist whatsoever, but the most we will is maybe include notes stating that a dubiously canon booklet gives alternate stats. The figure may have been licensed, but that does not mean Toho or Legendary signed off on or even looked at the accompanying booklet. The booklet is inconsistent with previous stats and seems to have completely invented several of them, and even includes several pieces of fan art. For example the stats it gives for MUTO Prime are suspiciously similar to the ones previously invented for it by Toho Kingdom's fan made KWC.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Its been well established by now that the MonsterVerse as of GvK has plagerized fan-art, (actually they stole fanart in birth of kong as well) the usage of fan-art has no bearing on not mentioning it its still very much accompanied with an offical piece of merch.

The opening of GvK itself gave godzilla stats that was stolen from a dubious fan made thing if i recall.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Reply button still busted

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

Yes, but the difference is that the dubious stats in GvK actually appeared in the movie, and even then we do not include them in the actual infobox but only in notes. These stats were pulled out of thin air for this merchandise specifically, and unless they reappear in something else official I don't hold them as particularly compelling.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Im not against mentioning them in notes as they should be mentioned somewhere, But what about various other instances where Merch is used as a cite to back things up though.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

In other instances like that the merch in question is usually more reliable or backed up by existing material.

KaijuMan (talkcontribs)

How about now?

SuperZillaRealms (talkcontribs)

Then, should this mean that we’re able to include these with no trouble now?

MonsterverseTitan (talkcontribs)

Do you have the link to where you got this screenshot from?

MechaniKongZilla (talkcontribs)