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Where exactly are you even getting the idea that the titanus class is specifically for one individual? The names Godzilla, Mothra and Archie are specifically for the individuals the Titanus thing is ment to be an identifier of what creature class they belong too. The Mutos Prove that it applies to multiple individuals.

I've not seen anything actually refer to entire species as "Titanus [whatever]." The language used in reference to the Titans is typically pretty singular, probably because for most of them they don't even have evidence of more than one individual existing. They have all lived a long time, after all.

And by the way, Linden's thing about "Archie" being Methuselah's name fundamentally misunderstands the terminology Monarch uses. "Designation" is their common name and "Classification" is their Titanus name. Methuselah's designation is "Methuselah" so his name is Methuselah just as much as Godzilla's name is Godzilla.

The designation is Godzilla and Mothra not Gojira and Mosura (yeah i know they are the same words irl just in different languages but the MonsterVerse seems to indicate they are separate names because why isnt everyone calling them that if that was the case?)

and i literally just pointed the MUTOS out

the Titanus Muto thing was shown only on the female does that mean the male isn't one? also we have a flashback in Godzilla aftershock that shows numerous female Mutos too are they not titans?

"Titanus MUTO" has only been shown to apply to the 2014 ones. A mating pair both carrying that classification doesn't seem unreasonable. Very little has been said of the one from GKOTM, so it could very well have its own classification. It might even be part of a different subspecies of MUTO Prime than the '14 MUTOs.

I don't really understand what you're getting at with Gojira and Mosura. "Titanus Gojira" is a formal name, most people are going to call him Godzilla.

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MUTO Prime's bio says that the two MUTOs from 2014 are a subspecies of her. Which taxonomically, does not conflict with Arvid Nelson's comment that they are the "same species." It doesn't seem outrageous to me that Monarch would give different names to subspecies just the way we do with real animals.

"Titanus Cranium Reptant" was only shown to apply to the Skull Devil. The implication is that he is a Titan but the Skullcrawlers are not, since they have a cryptozoological classification like the other Skull Island and Hollow Earth creatures. But again, it remains to be clarified.

oh crap i made the same comment in another reply and i edited that one sorry

also not really how subspecies work though not sure how a subspecies could give birth to another species entirely but the MonsterVerse crew doesnt seem like they are zoologist so.

im aware Titanus Cranium Reptant is the big guy but its still the Cranium Reptant designation and not separate from the small guys minus the titanus title.

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not sure how a subspecies could give birth to another species entirely

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It isn't a different species. The MUTO are the same species as MUTO Prime, they are just a subspecies. It's like how African leopards and Indian leopards are both the same species, Panthera pardus, but are considered different subspecies (P. p. pardus and P. p. fusca, respectively).

That said, it definitely makes no sense that she'd produce a subspecies asexually, or that the offspring would breed incestuously. But you can't hold these things to strict science.

My point with the Skull Devil is that he is seemingly the only one that bears the "Titanus Cranium Reptant" title. Cranium reptant is their species, but he's the only one that is a Titan, so he gets the Titanus classification but not the other Skullcrawlers. If I'm correct about that, then the classifications can't be about species, or else every Skullcrawler would be Titanus Cranium Reptant and not just one individual.

you seem to be going off of interpretation as well, the whole Titanus thing hasnt really been elaborated upon at all if it applies to every member of a species i do know the only example of this where it doesn't is Muto Prime (which i assume is why you are making these edits in the first place?) but i feel the only way to find out is either future MonsterVerse Projects apply it to multiple individuals or they retroactively mention Dagon being one or asking someone who works on the series about it (which idk who to ask).

I agree that it's unclear and we should wait for clarification, which is precisely why I'm only putting on the pages what has been said before. Calling every member of Godzilla's species "Titanus Gojira" is more of an assumption than just saying "Godzilla's species."

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BTW does the skull island fauna get classifications on their page?

i forgot if they even have classifications.

The ones from KSI had both a "cryptozoological classification" and a "classification" but there's so much retconning that goes on that I'm not sure if those are meant to mean the same thing anymore. The most recent one was Spirit Tiger from Kingdom Kong, which has a crypto. classification of Tigris Spiritus and classification of "Unknown."

I also just remembered that The Birth of Kong gives a bio on Kong's species, and they have a crypto. classification of "Apus [redacted]."

could there be a way to put both in?

i feel it should be addressed.

Same species, all “MUTO” as everyone calls them are a single species Titanus Jinshin-Mushi. Now confirmed again.

https://mobile.twitter.com/arvidthetwit/status/1635748363156037632