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Astounding Beyond Belief

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

UltraGoji (talkcontribs)

Hey Astounding Beyond Belief, I have a quick question: What was your first Godzilla film? Mine was Godzilla vs. Destoroyah.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

King Kong vs. Godzilla, via a GoodTimes VHS at the Rochester Public Library.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Mine was Destroy All Monsters.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

The 1998 film

UltraGoji (talkcontribs)

I saw the latter half of Godzilla vs. Destoroyah on TV, and bought the DVD a few years latter. I've been a fan ever since!

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

My first partial movie was Invasion of Astro-Monster and my first full one was Godzilla: Final Wars.

Les (talkcontribs)

Mine was probably either the '98 film or 2000: Millennium. Though I also had a few Showa tapes, so it's hard to know.

Mark Russell and Dr.Che relationship

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Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

A YouTuber named Dman1954 , he claims that they both are in love.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Is it true?

Les (talkcontribs)

Not explicitly stated or confirmed, though there are subtle hints. I think in a few scenes they can be seen holding hands.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

There was just that one scene on the sub, and that was just when it was getting propelled back to the surface by the force of Serizawa's nuke.

The King of the Monsters (talkcontribs)

The novelization more strongly hints at it. It could become a plot point in the next movie.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Does it? I must have missed that.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Why don't we ask Michael Dougherty on twitter about their relationship

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

No. Just wait for the next movie.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Mark is like Haruo and Dr Chen is like Yuko Tani.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

No.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'm literally begging you to watch other movies

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

which movie?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

At this point, anything that isn't a Godzilla movie made in the 2010's

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Is it Because you hate the anime trilogy?

Les (talkcontribs)

What he means is that there are more movies out there besides just Godzilla ones. Comparing two characters from one Godzilla movie with two otherwise unrelated characters from another just because they're in a relationship is pretty silly.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Dr Chen has a similar hairstyle like Yuko Tani and for Mark is that his goal of killing Godzilla.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Mark doesn't want to kill Godzilla, he just hates him.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I mean, he's right on that count. "I advise you to kill these things. All of 'em! Especially him."

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Except that he then advises the Castle Bravo staff to stand down rather than foolishly risking a fight that they can't win. And he later (apparently) is able to let go of his hate instead of, y'know, deciding that he can't change so he might as well die because he won't fit into society or whatever.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

you mean that he'll die in Godzilla Vs Kong?

Les (talkcontribs)

?????????

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

what about if he sacrifices like serizawa in the original 1954 film, by killing Godzilla.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Where'd you get an idea like that?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

JurassicKaiju14 is saying that the two characters are similar, but Mark changes and Haruo doesn't.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Oh, to be sure, he's a lot sharper than Captain Sakaki, but the similarity's there.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Haruo doesn't have a change of heart like Mark does, he also gets knocked out in the ground by a kaiju, just like how haruo got knocked out by Godzilla.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Those similarities are all superficial.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Mark's hairstyle is a callback to Nick Tatapoulus,Hideto Ogata,Joe and Ford Brody and Rando Yaguchi.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Who on Earth cares about hairstyles in a Godzilla movie?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

when you look at Dr Chen's hairstyle, you'll recognize it, oh, Dr Stanton's hairstyle is more like Martin Lazzari. Man, this seems that Michael Dougherty revisited the 2014 film and Shin Godzilla, just like Kobun Shizuno, but more than just 2 movies.

JurassicKaiju14 (talkcontribs)

Dude, just because you think their hair looks similar to somebody else doesn't mean it's an outright reference.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

This only happens when you revisit previous Godzilla films in order to get brainstorming ideas when you make your Godzilla film.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Me when it's Miki Saegusa in hit 1994 film Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Madison also had a hairstyle like Miki Saegusa.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

A bit.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

yeah, it makes her look reminiscent of her.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

does anyone in this website does fan arts?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'm sure there are others, but Enshohma springs most readily to mind. (And Titano, who's drawn most of our avatars for the YouTube channel.)

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

According to the policy page, under “General Rules”:


  • No fan fiction is allowed on Wikizilla is because it is not a fanon wiki, and in around 2009 to 2011 during Wikizilla's time on Wikia, too much fan-made material was added and was treated as actual canon and listed on several actual canon pages. If you wish to add fan fiction articles then do so on the Zilla Fanon Wiki or another fan site.


I think it mostly depends on what it is. I don’t know, Astounding will answer your question a lot better than I could.

BTW, as a “veteran” of Wikizilla (since I’ve been browsing since before 2011), I can’t tell you how messy it was when the site treated fan works as if they were official. But then again, the community was young back then, and everyone makes mistakes.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

I'm not talking about fan fiction,I mean by staff who does fan arts.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

i'm just curious.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

SkullIslandExplorer do you?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

what about Les?

Les (talkcontribs)

I can't draw for shit

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

who else does fan arts?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

I created a Avatar of my own.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

It looks pretty good.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

thanks, what about you guys?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I don't do official "fan art" but I do occasionally draw Godzilla and his comrades for fun.

Enshohma (talkcontribs)

I do artwork - google Enshohma and you'll see plenty

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

You’re Brandon Tenold’s thumbnail artist?! Sweet! I never thought I’d bump into someone like you.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I didn't even notice.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

You're really good! (especially that Hedorah drawing)

Enshohma (talkcontribs)

Big thanks for saying so!

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Your welcome!

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I'm making some drawing a of various Godzillas and I would like anyone that wants to, to critique it. I'll upload the ones I've drawn and the ones I haven't as I draw them.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Enshohma,here's my request for your other fan art,like how legendary based Godzilla's face on bears,dogs and eagles,for manda look at hawks and crocodiles.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

VaderRaptor could you use elements of bears,dogs and eagles for the 2014 Godzilla and upload them in this usertalk please.

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VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

I'm going to upload them, but this is just cause I was bored. This is for fun. I'm not a professional. To answer your request: no.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

I'm too bored,so I want it to be uploaded.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

If anything I'm doing the work.

Titanus Radon (talkcontribs)

I don't do fan art because I have the art talent of a 5 year old, but I do fan-fictions (not those kind of fan-fictions) that I post sometimes on my talk page (if you would like to see them. Completely optional if you don't want to)

Shinkalion Godzilla

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Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Hello, I have been with a doubt these days about the new Shinkalion movie and it is that Ice Godzilla is a Godzilla incarnation or not?

A trailer was featured recently where Godzilla theme plays during Ice Godzilla appareance, wouldn't this mean he is a Godzilla?

Video here: https://movies.yahoo.co.jp/special/detail/20200117801110/

Even anime news network says this is Godzilla:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-01-17/shinkalion-anime-film-1st-3-minutes-streamed-with-hatsune-miku-vs-godzilla-battle/.155463?fbclid=IwAR1qLbNZR7Hf0LNRA_GPu-KQa8SrrpRvRZktRvMRYKiKFNLnyZc26tCUlkY

Thanks in advance!

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

the yahoo page is not working.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

That's strange, for me it works.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

For now we're treating Snow Godzilla like Godzillo in My Hero Academia: Two Heroes: officially licensed but distinct from plain old Godzilla. That might change depending on what's in the movie, but I wouldn't expect it to be translated for a bit.

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

Ok, thank you.

One last question if Ice Godzilla is officially licensed that means he could get a page in the future?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That will likely depend on the extent of his role in the movie. If he disappears after the pre-title sequence with Miku, then absolutely not.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

yeah

Shinkasen henkai robo shinkalion Godzilla

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Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

what appearance did he made In?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

No idea.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Then who wrote that film in his filmography ?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

What? We know he's in the movie, or at least "Snow Godzilla" is, just not what he does in it. It's only been in Japanese theaters for a few days.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

do you have the picture of it?

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

The only picture we have from him is this one:

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

you mean that he looks more like shin Godzilla?. So we have the official sillohute of it.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

do we also have some screenshots of Godzilla in that anime?

Shinomura (talkcontribs)

He will feature a new design rather than use an already established design of Godzilla. But as I said before this is the only we have from him at the moment, cus the movie was released few days ago.

So you have to be patient and wait.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Well Alright, but seriously?, instead of aiming for a new design. They just decided to combine original designs of the character. What a weird way to call it a new design, isn't it?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

It seems to be a Shin and Hesei hybrid.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

what is toho up to this point?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

how could you be sure that he's in the movie,did any of you seen the movie or did you just looked on devientart and decided to show people that he does exist in the film?.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)
Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

was it a crossover?

Summary by Astounding Beyond Belief

Correction to SkullIslandExplorer: rakugo is a form of comedy. Kaijuzill, if you keep clogging up my talk page with questions you could Google in five seconds, I'm just going to start deleting the topics.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Is he really a comedian?

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

No, he’s a filmmaker, actor, and rakugoka.


Excerpt from Wikipedia:

Rakugo (落語, literally "fallen words") is a form of Japanese verbal entertainment. The lone storyteller (落語家 rakugoka) sits on stage, called kōza (高座). Using only a paper fan (扇子 sensu) and a small cloth (手拭tenugui) as props, and without standing up from the seiza sitting position, the rakugo artist depicts a long and complicated comical (or sometimes sentimental) story. The story always involves the dialogue of two or more characters. The difference between the characters is depicted only through change in pitch, tone, and a slight turn of the head.


(BTW, this stuff’s pretty easy to look up).

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

What films did he directed outside of Deep sea monster Reigo and Raiga?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Google is a thing.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

What was his personality?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Did... you watch the movie?

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

yes

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

What did you find confusing then?

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

@Kaijuzill: Answer that question for yourself.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

I only seen the Japanese version of the film,without English subtitles.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That is a problem easily rectified

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

just tell me his behaviour.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Kindly stop pestering me with asinine questions.

Summary by Astounding Beyond Belief

this is pedantic even by wiki standards

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Should I make a page for the Skull Island: The Birth of Kong sequel? Or should I wait until more info arises? (Just wondering)

Les (talkcontribs)

I mean, there is almost nothing known about it. It doesn't even have a title yet

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

I mean, we could call it (as a placeholder), “Untitled Skull Island: The Birth of Kong sequel”. I think waiting will be a better idea, though. (Just a suggestion)

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'd also like a title before we make a page.

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

Sure. Let’s wait.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

zid is returning to illustrate the comic and when is it coming out?

SkullIslandExplorer (talkcontribs)

We don’t know. So we’ve gotta wait.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

For the release date, I'm gonna take a good guess and say before GvKK.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Yeah... probably before GvKK.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Its GVK,not GVKK.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Godzilla (G) versus (v) King Kong (KK)

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Yeah, right but they didn't put King in it , because they're trying to distinguish the film from King Kong vs Godzilla.

Summary by VaderRaptor

Okay

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

the sequel is coming in 2022(check Wikipedia page "Kaiju".

Les (talkcontribs)

That's just a random title someone added to the Wikipedia page. Again, look for corroborating information before taking something at face value. If there was absolutely nothing announced anywhere on the internet except for something saying "Rampage 2" on a badly-sourced Wikipedia article, it's probably not true.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

Minoru Kawasaki was working on a kaiju film called "kaiju seafood wars".Omni viewer has a video about it.

Kaijuzill (talkcontribs)

the new manga episode, should be out this day.years you forgot to edit Gojiban.

VaderRaptor (talkcontribs)

Again, you can do it yourself if you know the info.

Les (talkcontribs)

It hasn’t even come out yet. Stop trying to micromanage