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My edit on ''Blockbuster Monster Movie''

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Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

Hello. I'm not sure I understand what do you mean. I think it was already confirmed it's a live-action film. Therefore, it's definitely a tokusatsu film.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

No, we need confirmation that they're actually using practical effects, especially with Yamazaki's VFX background.

Allosaurus (talkcontribs)

I think there's some confusion. I'm pretty sure it will use CGI, but tokusatsu doesn't include only suitmation. What I realized after exploring Japanese Wikipedia, any film with special effects is considered tokusatsu in Japan. Moreover, Blockbuster Monster Movie is a Japanese production. Both Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman are mentioned as tokusatsu for the same reason. If anything, it should be noted in the misconceptions list that tokusatsu is often mistakenly associated only with practical effects.

Les (talkcontribs)

The Japanese Wikipedia page on tokusatsu doesn’t indicate that at all. An excerpt:

From the 1990s onward, VFX using computer graphics (CG) and digital technology began to spread. Therefore, in Japan, the term "tokusatsu" is often used to refer to past tokusatsu productions or those that follow in their footsteps, rather than to SFX-driven productions. After 2000, when the aforementioned digital technology (VFX) became sufficiently practical and common, the term "tokusatsu" came to be used in the sense of original SFX techniques such as miniature filming and filming using puppets and costumes, and analog VFX techniques and works such as optical synthesis.

There might be cases where tokusatsu is used interchangeably with “special effects” (I know the Wikipedia categories for tokusatsu movies are ridiculously inclusive), but in general it carries the connotation of practical effects. Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman might be considered tokusatsu because they both had practical effects units that did a small amount of work on them, or because of the style of the VFX used. If the marketing for the next G film calls it tokusatsu, then I guess we can too, but I think we should leave it off for now.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I dont remember any Practical Effects in shin ultraman actually

Les (talkcontribs)

When Ultraman first touches down in the forest, the trees that fall over are miniatures. Also the street that the giant Asami lays on and the building she elbows were miniatures. There're also people credited for making and operating a flying puppet, so they may've used it for mocap (or it's just disguised well).