Topic on User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief

Are we sure we should literally take EW calling it a crab literally and we sure its not a conjectural descriptor of what it looks like physically? Its certainly got very un-crab like characteristics like an actual pair of hands and pupil eyes. It just might be wiser and maybe wait to see if they get a species profile.

Im also skeptical of they really are titans btw.

The Mantleclaw is a pretty small Titan, to be sure, but we can't countermand a direct quote from the episode writer/executive producer of the show with "the vibes are off." He also calls the Mantleclaw "a giant Titan version of a crab," which in combination with the rest of the article is good enough for me. I don't think it's a big deal either way - but given that we're talking about a television monster, excluding it from a list of Skull Island arthropods is excessive.

He could of been using titan as a descriptor of size?

But i don't think it matters too much until we get a canon species profile or more info,

But this reminds me Didn't someone who worked on the Mutos call them a mammal?, yet last i checked we didn't put them in that category?

Him using Titan non-literally is your assumption; not good enough.

I think calling the MUTOs mammals is fine (if utterly wild) so long as it's not contradicted by an in-universe source.

I don't think anything has contradicted it yet to my knowledge, i cant remember where it was mentioned but i think it was in one of the behind the scenes special features from Godzilla 2014?

It's from Guillaume Rocheron in Godzilla: The Art of Destruction. I forgot that he wasn't the VFX supervisor of the entire movie though, just for MPC, which might be why we just quote him (in the Design section) instead of calling the MUTOs mammals ourselves. Or it's category neglect lol

I swear i recall seeing a clip that kinda said the same thing.

Both seem to be attached to the same base limb but split off like a tree branch

yes the mantleclaw has a weird actual clawed hand attached to the same limb its crab pincers are on, its kinda similar to how muto prime has limbs coming out of other limbs

i hate that it has thumbs

the monsterverse is just getting anatomically weirder with it's monsters with each entry.

also, why is it classified as a titan? isn't it supposed to be a superspecies?

the entertainment weakly article and showrunners for some reason called it that, i imagine the actual profile or whatever will correct that

The show creators appear to have a lot of respect for the MV, but I feel like things such as the Lawton suggest that not everything lines up perfectly. It probably should just be a superspecies, but the show's creators may simply know the monsters as all fitting under the "Titan" descriptor, since superspecies is (to my knowledge) almost entirely used in other media outside of the films, whereas the films don't describe the smaller monsters and then call the large creatures Titans.

thats my guess, future information probably will correct it.

https://twitter.com/MonarchSciences/status/1725645136921579663

@Les

So uhh aparantly the image description of this tweet calls the MotherLonglegs a titan.

weird, i really don't like how the smaller creatures are being called "titans"

To me that's roughly the equivalent to an audio description, and we've had huge problems with the reliability of those in the past. It can be noted in the page's trivia, but I don't think anything more than that is needed. The Kong: Skull Island Cinematic Adventure doesn't call it a Titan, and that's a much more authoritative source.

speaking of cinematic adventure, i wanted to add some of the info that was still missing from those to the respective pages but a certain persons twitter account who posted those images got deleted and are lost now, is there any way i can read some of the information from it without coughing up some cash?

Doubt it, stuff like that doesn't really get pirated.

do you not have access to it or can post any of the profiles from it? i recall the butterfly bush being described more physically and wanted to update it's page, plus the Shocker Squid still has no page yet and is in sandbox.

Sure, I just don't care to. Evil Genius is a small company; spend the twenty bucks on their product if you want it.

but i didn't want to cough anything up and just wanted to updated the respective stuff tho ._.

It's well worth the money; there's plenty of lore in there beyond the bios that we haven't had the chance to incorporate on the site yet.