Hi, I’m a new member of Wikizilla, I’ve been a longtime Godzilla fan and I also like to study the English dubs to each Godzilla film (that mainly concern having international\export dubbed versions). It appears that you probably know quite a bit about this subject matter, so I wanted to ask you a question concerning the original Ghidorah 1964 film. I’ve been looking for an uncut English dubbed version, were the origin of the story remains on Venus where Princess Salno came from, her name unchanged, no re-arranged scenes and the music score being retained. I believe a few years ago a couple of guys found some Turkish advertising material containing this information, as well as using possibly a different title card name Monster of Monsters: Ghidorah. They made it sound like it was a possibility and they said it wasn’t known if it existed, but found these advertising materials that state it does.
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I have never heard of nor found myself any of the Turkish advertising materials you describe. The film was released in Turkey--possibly the only European release of the film before the home video era--but as far as I know, nothing has ever surfaced to indicate that that release was of a different and undocumented English dubbed version (i.e. different than the American version).
English-language print materials from Toho International do exist, including posters under the titles "Monster of Monsters Ghidorah" and "Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster." But the existence of print materials alone is neither evidence nor proof of another English version of the film.
It's possible, however, that Toho commissioned its own English-dubbed version of the film, but to my knowledge there's no real evidence for such a version.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me on this. I appreciate it.
I’m a little late to this thread but Toho are releasing an “overseas trailer” for Ghidorah on the upcoming 4K UHD release of the film, I presume that this refers to an International/Export trailer. I must note however that just because an Export trailer for this film exists it doesn’t mean that a Toho commissioned dub was made, it is possible that the trailer could use Japanese audio accompanied by English subtitles (much like the Export trailer for Godzilla ‘54) or use the English audio from the US version of the film.
Though there is always a possibility for an unreleased International English dub for the film to exist. As stated by H-Man beforehand, Toho International does have print material for the film under either “Monster of Monsters, Ghidorah” or “Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster” with an International poster with the latter title existing. If it does exist, I would be really interested with which dubbing company made it. Going by the International versions of Toho’s films at the time, the dub would most likely be produced by either Frontier Enterprises (Tokyo) or Atlas International (Hong Kong). Frontier (or at least it’s dubbers) presumably did dubbing for an unreleased International version of King Kong vs. Godzilla and also made the International dubs for Ebirah, Son and DAM as well as some other Toho films at the time. Atlas would mostly do other Toho movies but would eventually do the International English dubs for Hedorah, Gigan and Megalon. If I were to guess, Frontier would be the more likely dubbing company.
Thanks for sharing, I'd love to see if there really is an international\export dub to the film and if it surface. I figured Frontier would be the most likely of the two dubbing companies that would've produced it.
Ok, so it turns out that the Export trailer actually uses audio from the American English dub, it even uses the actual “Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster” title card, doesn’t seem like it’s a reconstruction. So Toho doesn’t seem to have made their own International version of the film, instead they would use the US cut for distribution, though for some reason they now don’t.
Hi, H-Man
I hope you're doing well, I haven't heard back from you in awhile so if you could when you return please answer the question I asked you about New World and Sony on what their stories for almost releasing the film and backing out of it were. I also had another question, there's this VHS I've been trying to identify for Megalon. If you don't find me asking do you know anything about the year, distributor and rather or not it's the uncut version? I've not ever heard anyone talk about it before.
Thanks and take care!
I was browsing on ebay for TOHO dvd copies & asked sellers for photos of the title card & one of the sellers provided me a color title card & i thought i should share with you.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/VzW71Gg
P.S. here is a link to buy it if you want to buy it so you can potentially archive the color export visualshttps://www.ebay.ca/itm/195886558919
This is clearly the black and white title tinted red.
oh ok
I just had another one of those fact over fiction questions I've been wondering about and it's in regards to Godzilla vs. Megalon's uncut international version. I think David Kalat mentioned in his book A Critical History and Filmography of Toho's Godzilla Series. That New World Video considered releasing the uncut version of Megalon along with Gigan and Mechagodzilla, but dropped out due to there being a problem with money regarding it's release in competing with the fly-by-night distributors releasing the heavily edited Cinema Shares version. I don't see why there would have been a concern like that, because I would've thought that most consumers would've been willing to pay extra just to see the unedited version of the film or could they just not afford it from Toho back then?
Also, I heard somewhere that Sony considered releasing it on DVD in their lineup for Godzilla's 50th anniversary, but they dropped out of it as well. Was there a similar issue like with New World Video? Also, for some reason even though Sony never released it there had been people that acted like they did. So, I don't know if that was just a rumor, I even recall someone once stating that, "the only way you could get it on DVD was in a two pack with Godzilla vs. Gigan". But that couldn't have been true because otherwise it would've surfaced somewhere and this was all before it was finally released by Media Blasters in 2012.
Hi, H-Man
I couldn't think of a better person to ask about this other than you, but as you know during the second season run of MST3K, Joel and his bot friends mocked the Cinema Shares edit of Godzilla vs. Megalon followed by Ebirah: Horror of the Deep's Titra dub entitled Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster and those were the last two episodes of that season, but I know my mind's not lying to me when I've seen before on a couple of websites, a photo of the silhouettes of Joel and the Bots sitting down and on the screen was the Cinema Shares edit of Godzilla vs. Gigan which as you already know had it's title changed to Godzilla on Monster Island's title card appeared in front of them. The sites I remember seeing this on never confirmed if it was real or fake and I was I could show it to you, but unfortunately I can't find it anywhere on google and I've looked several times. I researched it online to try to see if an episode of them mocking it exists but can't find any info on it. So, is there a way you could confirm if this photo is a shot of some real long lost episode of the show or if someone just photoshopped it? I wouldn't be surprised either way since Megalon's the sequel to Gigan.
Thanks again.
No, there was definitely no such episode. Any purported screenshot of Godzilla on Monster Island with the MST3K Shadowrama is a fake. MST3K is a well-documented show (especially its cable run), so any comprehensive fan site (such as Tom's Temple of MST3K Stuff) would cover such a thing if it had ever existed.
However, during their years producing the show for cable, a Godzilla on Monster Island one-sheet hung in the writers' room (as seen during the "This is MST3K" special produced for Comedy Central).
Mike and the Bots (Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett) also poked fun at GoMI (and other Sci-Fi-licensed Godzilla movies) for a CBS News Saturday Morning segment on May 16, 1998.
While not officially affiliated with MST3K, GoMI was the featured "episode" of the MST3K Home Game on May 28, 1998. This was a fan effort that congregated in the Sci-Fi Channel chat rooms and text-riffed a movie they'd all agreed to tune into (not always broadcast by Sci-Fi). The riff transcripts were edited down and preserved on the Home Game page.
Thanks for clearing that up, while I never considered that film or the two they riffed to be bad films mind you, I admired their humor and think it's a shame that they didn't have an episode of them riffing it directly. I imagined it would've been hilarious if they had done it.
Hi H-Man,
I am currently working on a project which requires copies of the Sci-Fi Channel airings of the Godzilla films from 2002-2006. I have been able to acquire all of the films with the exception of Godzilla vs. Gigan. Would you by chance have an idea of where I could go to locate a copy of this? In which I’d be willing to make a trade or negotiate to acquire this film. Thanks for letting me know if you have any ideas?
I have copies of all of those but no way at present of duplicating or sharing them. I'm sorry, I'll let you know if anything changes.
I have a copy that I can share. I am interested in exchanging materials if yours are of sufficient technical quality.
That's great! What format would you like to use to share and is there a specific film (s) you are looking for?
What are your source formats for the other Sci-Fi channel airings?
I've got DAM on a USB jump drive in a M4V file and I've got Hedorah, Megalon and Mechaogdzilla on DVD-R disc. My copy of Godzilla vs. Megalon has no commercials, but the other three do.
Do you know what the original sources for the three '70s films were? I would like to see screenshots. I have Gigan without commercials, DVD-R VIDEO_TS.
All three of mine are on Video_TS as well. I don't have screenshots. Is there one you would like screenshots over the others and I will get them?
I would like to see at least one screenshot from all three
Did the screenshots I provided work, or do you need more? Can you provide me a screenshot from Godzilla vs. Gigan?
Hi Space Hunter M,
I am needing a reply as to if you are willing or not to go forward with a trade. I am needing to move forward quickly on my project so could you please let me know if you are willing to trade or not? Thanks!
I want 1:1 VIDEO_TS folders of the DVDs. Screenshots: https://postimg.cc/gallery/fDGb6HM/b6bb8eb3
My upload is ready and waiting.
Hi, Space Hunter M
Any thoughts on how you would like to move forward with the trade? I would like to go ahead and move forward before the end of the week..
My file upload is ready. I want uploaded copies for the three as well. Contact me on my Twitter to exchange links: https://twitter.com/SpaceHunter_M
I'm a little new to Twitter. When I go to message you it won't allow it. My Twitter account is https://twitter.com/WXYZGojo2022 Can you tell me what I need to do next?
Check your DMs.
Did you want hard copies or upload them to you? If it's the latter, where should I send them to you from? Likewise, did you want to send me a hard copy of Gigan or upload it?
Hey thanks for waiting, all three are up in my uploads. Special:ListFiles/Gojo2022
Hey, would you be at all interested in joining our private Discord? If so, I can shoot you a link. Thanks.
can i join the discord?
If you’ve ever felt like joining, now would be the time: Topic:Vnqfcosxj0wug14z
Thank you for your consideration! I only have very little experience with Discord, and while I'd like to join, I'm not sure I'd get the most out of it (simply because it's all very foreign to me). That said, I do have the app and an account that I use to talk to some friends, but if my membership in the Wikizilla Discord would prevent a more active member from joining then I would suggest you guys offer that spot to them instead. But again, thank you.
Discord servers can hold thousands of people, so you don't have to worry at all about taking up a spot.
Nope, no spots are reserved and we’re actively looking for new faces. There are plenty of other cool people there like SpaceHunterM and Monster Island Buddies, so we’d love to have someone of your expertise around. Even if you don’t use it often, it’s an easy means of communication to talk about ways to improve the site, etc. So maybe we’ll see you there? :D
Pretty sure I joined; like I said, Discord is mostly a foreign concept to me, lol. Thanks for opening up the invites and the suggestion to join.
Sure thing! Yup, I see you on the user list. Happy to have ya
Except - there seem to be two accounts with the name "Hman." Did you accidentally join with two?
Oops, that's a definite possibility. Like I said, not really sure what I'm doing with it. From my end it looks like there are two HMans (H-Men?) as well, although I'm not sure how that happened.
is there a server, if so, may I join?
H-Man,
IIRC, you said in one of my notices pages "Godzilla (Dark Horse edits)" that Gappa was the UK title for this film (according to the BBFC record that you posted there) and that Gappa the Triphibian Monster was only used in the theatrical release posters. This was 14 days ago, according to the notice. I took your advice and changed it, then you undid it. What gives? I'm confused here.
Yes, that was an unfortunate casualty, because it's far easier to undo your edits in all (which I explained here) than manually change just the mistakes.
Do you want me to put the UK title back, or do you want to do it?
I took care of it, thanks.
I just bought a 1989 Terror of Mechagodzilla VHS, and I’m a little confused. I was expecting either the Red and White freeze frame title or the Yellow explosion title. Shockingly, it contains neither. The Mechagodzilla freeze frame is blank, and so is the explosion. Is this normal for a Paramount VHS tape?
I'm not certain about the 1989 release (catalog number 12698), which I don't have; but yes, the earlier 1983 release (2321C) opens this way.
I found 2 unknown DAM tapes, but I’m not sure where to put this info. Can you tell me which versions of the film they are?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144104279481?hash=item218d48cdb9:g:xcUAAOSw33Jg5NIj
Hollywood House Video was/is an Australian company. The other has no company information, which pretty much guarantees it's a bootleg.
Is the first one the AIP dub and is it official? It’s not on Toho Kingdoms VHS collection!
Not sure on either count. But regarding legitimacy, it's suspicious that Toho's name isn't anywhere on the back.
I fell like i have seen that before...
Is it theAIP dub?
I haven't seen the tape myself and I can't find any significant info about it online, but I'd guess the Hollywood Home Theater tape is the AIP version. Siren Visual (also Australian) later released DAM on DVD and their transfer was from a censored 16mm print of the AIP version.
Was the Siren DVD also 80 minutes?
It's 82:26 (PAL; 85:33 at film speed), so it's possibly the same transfer.
I dunno, I don’t think anyone on Wikizilla has any of the Siren Visual DVD’s. I know I don’t!
I found another mystery tape: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174708708188?hash=item28ad73535c:g:rtQAAOSwUMxgX0ui
The only hit for that company on Google effectively calls it a bootlegger.
I just found something interesting: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174557646908?hash=item28a472503c:g:HZoAAOSwCp1f1iwm
Ah, okay.
