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Astounding Beyond Belief

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Astounding Beyond Belief/Archive 1 on 2019-04-29.

Wanigon vs Gamaron?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

so are we covering this its very much based on Gamera to my little knowledge.


i added it to my (distressingly large) sandbox but i legit don't know anything about its backstory other than it came with toys

i don't know who worked on it or any of the other finer details.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

also speaking of gamera im not sure if its me but does Gyaos and Gamera look like they are based on the designs from the 2015 short?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'd wait on confirmation of that. As for Wanigon vs. Gamaron, yes, it qualifies.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Unrelated but are we Doing Kaiju No.8s anime adaption or not

we know Tohos directly involved

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

oh alright i hate to ask but i need help with further adding onto it because i have zero idea on who the staff is nor know the exact backstory behind it and im not sure where exactly i could look to find this stuff.

its short enough for me to probably make a plot though.

also idk they seem largely based on it the gyaos from 2015 it even has a curved beak which only the 2015 incarnation had.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Tried to search for the short on google in Japanese but the results where not very helpful and google translate is super unhelpful with trying to get exact staff roles.


but i did get a few names. and Daisuke Sato is one of them, is this the same guy as our guy here?


Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I'm taking a crack at it through writing the characters on Google Translate/looking for comparable staff roles on Japanese Wikipedia; here's what I have so far.

Producer: Hiromi Kii (喜井裕美 - corroborated this here even though the first character doesn't seem to completely match what's in the credits)

Screenplay: Matsu Midorika (緑丘松)

Supervisor: Akira Inoue (井上章)

Staff: Satoru Miki (三木理), Mineyuki Tsuge (柘植峰之), Masakatsu Yagi (八木将勝), Junko Kumanomido (熊埜御堂淳子), Hiromi Toyokawa (豊川博巳)

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

so what exactly are the Staff roles of the bottom row or does it not say?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It doesn't seem like it's going to get any more specific than that.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

so whos the production company is it Amapro itself?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Seems to be

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

trailer just dropped

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i was sent this in regards to this film


no idea if its important.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Good to have in the gallery, certainly.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

But is there any vital info i havent translated it yet.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That's a little more than I have time to look at right now (you should definitely download OCR software if you haven't already, like capture2text).

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I was told the info on the companies was wrong despite being listed in the opening


So now what?

Im at a loss

Les (talkcontribs)

Specifically, it is wrong to put them in the “funded by” field of the infobox. 協力 is equivalent to a special thanks credit.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I had no idea where to put it

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Possible alt account.

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

EDIT nevermind

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Actually neverminded i noticed something

User:I ship pegleg pete and myself looks like an alternate account it list almost identical information and mention of this nonexistent pegleg pete character too.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)
There is also Godzilla12345678910‎, who shares similar info and commenting habits, but that is only an assumtion. Although, the pegleg account contains the same info and the same real first name.
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Blocked the Pegleg account; we'll see about the other one.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Don't want to assume anything but i think he might be back again

User:Squishy


This list ,crisp as his food, Peppa pig and another old rubberhose era cartoon character in his profile like the other two.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Noted.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

He is back...again (he really doesnt even try and hide it either might i add, he always list Peppa pig 30s cartoons or crisp and in each of these bios)

User:The1998TacoBellGodzilla


(Is it possible to ban his IP To prevent the constant sockpuppets?)

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That's annoying. We've had issues with IP bans somehow catching clearly unrelated users though.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

I see it happened again


while im aware of the issue is it possible its worth the risk to do it anyway?


its clear he isnt going to stop.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

I'd say it's not. If the bot messes up, it could end up just being more, continous work than to watch for someone who doesn't make any attempt to hide themselves.

MechZilla74 (talkcontribs)

This is getting old, I guarantee you he's going to be back.

Barugon Image

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Do we have a better image for Barugon that could be used in the infobox?

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Bump?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Barugon's a tricky one. A lot of the production photos from the movie are in black-and-white or pretty blurry. These are the strongest candidates I've found, but in the first he's been bloodied and Gamera would inevitably be in the shot, and the second doesn't reflect the suit's true colors because it was taken on the frozen Osaka set.

Les (talkcontribs)

I offer two suggestions for your consideration:

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

The first one would be a lock if not for the helicopter flying in front of him (and it's still a strong contender).

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

What about a high quality screenshot from the movie itself?

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

A non-profit posted the film for free on YouTube, so a shot could be obtained from there.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Or Tubi. I don't recall any particular shots in the film that would be good fits, but y'all are welcome to look.

Keeri'ijra (talkcontribs)

Yeah, any good shots that come to mind are in darkness, but I will see if I can find a good one.

Kaiju No. 14 (talkcontribs)

How about we use one of these pics?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Third one's pretty strong, it would just look small with infobox dimension constraints.

Edit warring in MonsterVerse Mechagodzilla page.

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

I don't really see anything wrong with a little opening to a list of abilities, especially one as long as MV Mechagodzilla's. We've started doing that for certain monsters' history subsections.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

hate to be back but now he keeps trying to lump every radiation related ability under the same section on the monsterverse godzilla page despite no other godzilla incarnations page lumping every radiation related abilities all under the same section.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

im sorry btw it kept happening and no one else stepped in i wasnt trying to go back and fourth on it i was just trying to fix it back how it was supposed to be.


the only reason i didnt take it to a talk page was because i was afraid i might of been called a backseat moderator (and i forgot anyway)

Valley of Rainbows scorpion?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i noticed this on the list of minor monsters


how come its listed as a monster there but not on Gamera vs barugons page?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That can probably be deleted

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It hasn't come up before, though I guess it was only a matter of time. I'd much rather see the version the user wrote before the GPT changes.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Godzilla in popular culture - relevant?

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Cohozilla (talkcontribs)

Lately, I noticed that the page "Godzilla in popular culture" no longer pertains to just Godzilla. For example, Gamera has numerous entries that do not involve Godzilla, as does Kong.

As an alternative, could the page simply be renamed to "Kaiju in popular culture"? Obviously, the page would still redirect from "Godzilla in popular culture".

Kaiju island of fire?

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Idk if you missed it but the site also has what seems to be an actual teaser for the film.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)
Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

im probably going to add it under my sandbox pool then.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

It's a student film, so no.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

Made a page but its a bit bare and i forgot some cast (will add later)

Im not sure what the title in japanese is mind checking it out?

Kaiju: Island of Fire

Megabubalis skerryfer???

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

where exactly did this come from??

i tried looking it up but it only led back to here.


Sker Buffalo#Name

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Not sure, we're the only site on the internet that references such a name. Could be from a piece in the art book that hasn't been scanned.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Just ask him then

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

i did a while ago and got ignored.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Ask again. We miss stuff sometimes, or don't have time to answer in the moment and it gets buried in Recent Changes

More stuff regarding the zilla/g98 name thing.

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)
Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

None of this is new information; KOTM covered it all in a back-and-forth in February. (The conversation branches off a few times, so you'll have to click around a bit to get all of it.)

Shorter route to debunking the trademark claim: merch of the 1998 Godzilla has called him Godzilla as recently as last year. The version of the film on Tubi also retains the Godzilla copyright info at the end.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

The spiral studio post called it Zilla but seemed to be talking about the G98 film when mentioning the Set and Animatronics


Not sure why though.

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

They're saying "Zilla" in reference to their model, although I don't think it would be relevant if they did make reference to "the Zilla animatronic" or similar. Toho's not reviewing every social media post by its licensors.

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

So why exactly did they invoke G98 Iconography with the promo pics of zilla in nyc and his name in the style of the g98 logo?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Ultimately that's a question only the company can answer. Maybe they did their research and knew that the ensuing discourse would raise awareness of the statue. Or Zilla was cheaper to license. Or Toho was being capricious and wouldn't let them call the statue Godzilla, and they pushed it as far as they could. Toho isn't above double standards when it comes to certain incarnations; they wouldn't let NECA make a Hanna-Barbera Godzilla figure, for instance, then let Mondo do it a few years later.

Oh, found another 1998 Godzilla toy called Godzilla from last year: https://us.ric-toy.com/200020r-wldna.html

Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

so you're suggesting it was a marketing ploy to get attention?

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

That was the least-serious of my suggestions (but if it was, it sure worked).

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Lots of watermarked images uploaded recently

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Zillaman98 (talkcontribs)

a lot of watermarked images from TK was uploaded to the final wars related galleries.


they also uploaded a bunch of Barubaroi concept art thats not on this site and a bit of these images seemingly don't exist anywhere else so how else can they be obtained

Astounding Beyond Belief (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I overlooked that. I'll check with GigaBowserG on how TK views it, but generally it's not a good look for us. Sometimes watermarks are unavoidable, but in these recent cases, they're probably just scans from the Godzilla Final Wars Completion book (not sure about Barubaroi though).