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28 April 2024

     02:10  (Comments log) [Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎ (2×)]
     
02:10 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs edited comment #92907 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(My honest opinions of GxK: I say it's a 6/10, it's a fun popcorn movie with lot's of action The best part is definitely Kong, like usual the human stuff is mediocre, I liked Trapper and Bernie tho Final battle was pretty short, I loved Skar King as a villain. Soundtrack is generic. Godzilla suplexes Kong and Kong uses Suko as a weapon If you want a fun action popcorn movie to turn your brain off too and enjoy, watch this movie)
     
01:35 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(My honest opinions of GxK: I say it's a 6/10, it's a fun popcorn movie with lot's of action The best part is definitely Kong, like usual the human stuff is mediocre, I liked Trapper and Bernie tho, also RIP that guy who was eaten by a tree Final battle was pretty short, I loved Skar King as a villain. Soundtrack is generic. Godzilla suplexes Kong and Kong uses Suko as a weapon If you want a fun action popcorn movie to turn your brain off too and enjoy, watch this movie)

27 April 2024

     20:36  (Comments log) [MrPenguin‎; MechaniKongZilla‎; ThatOneKaijuFan2011‎ (2×); Keeri'ijra‎ (2×); Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎ (3×)]
     
20:36 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Thanks mom, love you.)
     
20:36 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Finally gonna see GxK today)
     
17:55 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(it did hit $500 million!)
     
15:17 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=Pink| The Great Pinkening ends when GxK hits $500 Million |padding-left=5px}})
     
02:37 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Could this be a situation like AniGoji where it could very well also apply to the incarnation as a whole (in this case, the alternate form) as opposed to specifically the design, or is it clear it's directly referring to the design?)
     
02:35 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(It's incredible.)
     
02:29 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(The Chibi Godzilla Twitter account being amazing as usual:https://twitter.com/chibigodzi/status/1783979373403746621)
     
01:11 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Now the movie is released in Japan, I've seen that Japanese fans nicknamed the Godzilla design '''EvoGoji''' (エヴォゴジ), and I'll use that)
     
00:55 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(These were scenes leaked weeks before GxK hit Japanese theaters, these aren't really new scenes anymore.)
     02:24  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 2 changes history +132 [Tibiofibula‎; MechaniKongZilla‎]
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02:24 (cur | prev) +7 Tibiofibula talk contribs Tag: Visual edit
     
01:25 (cur | prev) +125 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Trivia)

26 April 2024

     23:30  (Comments log) [Shard‎; JONCED04‎; GodzillaLover101‎; Dripnautilus2‎; Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎ (2×); JohnGojira‎ (2×); Godzilla Stan 54‎ (2×); EatenByShark6837isCool‎ (2×); Cohozilla‎ (2×); Keeri'ijra‎ (5×)]
     
23:30 EatenByShark6837isCool talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(More Shimo and Supercharged Godzilla scenes)
     
23:29 EatenByShark6837isCool talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(https://youtu.be/hdlNyCAm01M?si=WDGCQYo7Ca0Oz7Qh)
     
18:40 Shard talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Accurate)
     
14:53 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Couldn't agree more)
     
14:51 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$488,966,084|padding-left=5px}} Dear lord this thing pulls in around 2 million dollars each day.)
     
14:47 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs edited comment #92633 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Japanese reviews for this movie dropped, they basically sum up too "This movie is idiotic, was made by idiots, and made me a idiot, 10/10")
     
14:47 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Japanese reviews for ths movie dropped, they basically sum up too "This movie is idiotic, was made by idiots, and made me a idiot, 10/10")
     
14:40 GodzillaLover101 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(W movie)
     
13:46 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Salutations and greetings! @Godzilla Stan 54)
     
13:45 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(This is KONG!)
     
11:41 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Because he plays a vital role in the film.)
     
09:08 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Wow, Kong just seriously This Is Sparta’d one of Skar King’s minions to death!)
     
02:04 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Lol I am his fellow trolling friend who bullies Bernie on Discord. but why does he get a page?)
     
02:03 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #92533 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Finally. A rival to GhidoraStan64. Also bonjour!)
     
01:58 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #92533 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Finally. A rival to GhidoraStan64.)
     
01:58 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #92533 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Finally. A rival to Ghidorastan64.)
     
01:57 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Finally. A rival to Ghidorahstan64.)
     
01:43 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Hi I'm new here and have watched this movie in Japan)
     
00:37 Dripnautilus2 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(If anything it will probably be called "Godzilla, Kong, and Shimu")
     21:48  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 5 changes history −2 [Les‎; Godzilla Stan 54‎ (4×)]
     
21:48 (cur | prev) −2 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs
     
05:10 (cur | prev) −453 Les talk contribs
     
01:54 (cur | prev) +100 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs (→‎Trivia)
     
01:50 (cur | prev) +9 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs
     
01:41 (cur | prev) +344 Godzilla Stan 54 talk contribs
     19:15  Charles Barkley‎‎ 3 changes history +223 [Titanozilla2023‎; Nelspeedracer‎; Les‎]
     
19:15 (cur | prev) +37 Les talk contribs
     
15:25 (cur | prev) +11 Titanozilla2023 talk contribs
     
15:17 (cur | prev) +175 Nelspeedracer talk contribs (→‎Selected filmography: He is also first human being to battle Godzilla as well.)
     15:10  Hiroshi Koizumi diffhist +10 The Boy Who Cried Godzilla talk contribs
     14:38  Template:Actors diffhist +19 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs

25 April 2024

     22:03  (Comments log) [ThatOneKaijuFan2011‎; Keeri'ijra‎; Ebirahlobster‎; Rec‎ (2×)]
     
22:03 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(It'd technically be GxK 2)
     
19:48 Rec talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Sorry gotta keep the trend going man I like Mothra besides the monsterverse and I don't hate the monsterverse I still like Kong skull island and all the other kaiju design's besides goji mothra and mechagodzilla)
     
19:39 Ebirahlobster talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(what is wrong with mothra not being dead, it feels great that she didn't dead for the 100000000000000000000000000000th time)
     
19:27 Rec talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(MY REVIEW OF GODZILLA X KONG THE NEW EMPIRE! SPOILERS IF YIU HAVEN'T SEEN IT! Listen sorry to be that guy but this movie for me was a 6/10 I felt like the battle was rushed and for me it missed the realism like the others one had I still had a Funtime with it Just coming off of Minus One which is one of my if not my favorite movie ever! It just wasn't like that for me and I really do not like that Godzilla was pink but I still think it looks kinda of cool and Monsterverse Godzilla being...)
     
18:16 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Dear lord the clickbait channels are already beginning to pump out fake Godzilla x Kong 3 (the title doesn't even make sense in the MV) trailers.)

24 April 2024

     23:09  (Comments log) [MechaniKongZilla‎; MechZilla74‎; Keeri'ijra‎; ILoveHeisei‎; Cohozilla‎; TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (2×); ThatOneKaijuFan2011‎ (2×)]
     
23:09 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Well, they tried mechs, but they didn't work out very well.)
     
23:01 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(2027 and they're still using planes to try stop a Titan)
     
21:30 MechZilla74 talk contribs posted a new comment on Frank Welker({{G-font|color=Purple|DECEPTICONS! TRANSFORM AND RISE UP!|padding= -left=5px}})
     
17:11 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Real)
     
17:11 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(No, I'm talking about the channel owner)
     
12:30 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(real)
     
12:30 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Gigantis X Giant Gorilla: The New Army)
     
02:42 ILoveHeisei talk contribs edited comment #91956 on Monsterverse(Yeah, and I think he's also responsible for the Godzilla franchise's first and only f-bomb (tell me if I'm wrong).)
     
01:06 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$487,447,778|padding-left=5px}} Dear lord this thing pulls in around 2 million dollars each day.)
     21:14  Koichi Yamadera diffhist +21 Les talk contribs
     14:39  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire diffhist +136 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs (→‎Cast)

23 April 2024

     22:36  (Comments log) [Titanozilla2023‎; ThatOneKaijuFan2011‎; Showa Fan‎; MrPenguin‎; MechaniKongZilla‎; ILoveHeisei‎; Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎ (2×); Kaiju1954‎ (2×); Dripnautilus2‎ (2×); TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (3×); JONCED04‎ (3×); Keeri'ijra‎ (4×); JohnGojira‎ (8×)]
     
22:36 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(@TheGiganEnjoyer, How dare you call me stupid!!1111)
     
22:36 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Honestly I can't even tell whether Nerdious Momentos is serious or not sometimes.)
     
17:13 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I was gonna count those but then I realized that they don't have any land transportation. Maybe we'll get a HEAV with legs or treads or wheels later down the line. They already have hands, it wouldn't be that far of a leap.)
     
15:49 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(50,000 stupid people, wait 50,001 counting on him.)
     
15:46 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire("Nerd mode activates 🤓" Ummmmm Actually... The HEAVS are very similar to flying cars but are restricted to the public.)
     
15:44 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Godzilla x Kong The PEAKpire)
     
13:12 Titanozilla2023 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(This is brilliant.)
     
13:10 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I imagine he’s probably going to do what he can to pretend he never made those videos lol)
     
13:05 Dripnautilus2 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(MONEY MONEY)
     
12:57 Dripnautilus2 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Without their mouse they are pointless)
     
12:56 ILoveHeisei talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Yeah, and I think he's also responsible for the Godzilla franchise's only f-bomb.)
     
11:52 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(HE AINT GETTING TO 50K WITH THIS ONE!!!)
     
03:25 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Very true, I imagine there would be a number of accidents as soon as they are mass produced and more accessible.)
     
03:00 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(It's funny cause some are really dopey-looking, some are very cleanly designed, but in the end, people already majorly struggle when dealing with driving on the x and y planes. The amount of people who could actually pilot a flying car is not gonna be a big number.)
     
02:53 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Guess we could say there are, just not for public use...)
     
01:36 Showa Fan talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Erm actual-)
     
01:30 Kaiju1954 talk contribs edited comment #91912 on Monsterverse(Aside from playing Jackson Barnes, he's stated in interviews for KOTM that he's been a Godzilla fan ever since he was a child. I remember him mentioning that he used to watch the Hanna-Barbera ''Godzilla'' show.)
     
01:21 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #91914 on Monsterverse(The dude is a massive Godzilla fan.)
     
01:20 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(The dude is a massive fan.)
     
01:14 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91913 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Well, Battra was actively trying to destroy mankind, Monsterverse Godzilla is not; it is more that people are a part of a long list of things in the Natural Order that he tries to maintain. His depiction is more similar to the Heisei Gamera, though Adam Wingard's more jerk approach to Godzilla does shift him a little off that original concept (unfortunately as I see it).)
     
01:14 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91913 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Well, Battra was actively trying to destroy mankind, Monsterverse Godzilla is not; it is more that people are a part of a long list of things in the Natural Order that he tries to maintain. His depiction is more similar to the Heisei Gamera, though Adam Wingard's more jerk approach to Godzilla does shift him a little off that origin (unfortunately as I see it).)
     
01:13 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91913 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Well, Battra was actively trying to destroy mankind, Monsterverse Godzilla is not; it is more that people are a part of a long list of things in the Natural Order that he tries to maintain. His depiction is more similar to the Heisei Gamera, but Adam Wingard's more jerk approach to Godzilla does shift him a little off that origin (unfortunately as I see it).)
     
01:12 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Well, Battra was actively trying to destroy mankind, Monsterverse Godzilla has not gone there, more that people are a part of a long list of things in the Natural Order. His depiction is more similar to the Heisei Gamera, but Adam Wingard's more jerk approach to Godzilla does shift him a little off that origin (unfortunately as I see it).)
     
01:10 Kaiju1954 talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Aside from playing Jackson Barnes, he's stated in interviews for KOTM that he's been a Godzilla fan ever since he was a child. I remember him mentioning that he used to watch the Hanna-Barbera ''Godzilla'' show.)
     
01:08 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I love it LMAO)
     
00:50 JONCED04 talk contribs edited comment #91906 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Wait, this movie takes place in 2027? Man, what a future! And still no flying cars. Bummer.)
     
00:50 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Wait, the movie takes place in 2027? Man, what a future! And still no flying cars. Bummer.)
     
00:49 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(What I’m actually trying to say is, Godzilla is becoming like Battra in the Heisei era. A Knight Templar who protects earth but not humanity. My above comment was just a slip up.)
     
00:42 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(he was a actor in KOTM, he played barnes)
     
00:26 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Does O'Shea have any historical with the Godzilla franchise, like, as a fan? I mean, it feels '''so random''' to me for an actor/rapper simply propose a project like that.)

22 April 2024

     23:44  (Comments log) [MrPenguin‎; MechaniKongZilla‎; JohnGojira‎; JONCED04‎; Goatzilla1998‎; Ebirahlobster‎; Shard‎ (2×); Les‎ (2×); TherealHokmuto‎ (3×); Keeri'ijra‎ (3×)]
     
23:44 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire([https://youtube.com/shorts/qQf6wCOAKPE?si=JkaDWJtau4bI82Ug aged like wine])
     
22:48 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(A big draw of it has been the awesome concept art of redesigned Toho kaiju, but I'm keeping my expectations low on that front. It would be really cool if we got even one, but I don't think Anguirus, Gigan, Biollante, and the Gargantuas are as guaranteed as many would want. That being said, the show's basic premise is that there is a task force dedicated to seeking out and dealing with kaiju, G-Team, as well as Barnes having to go through some PTSD. Even if we didn't get a single Toho kaiju,...)
     
22:27 Les talk contribs edited comment #91887 on Monsterverse(It's a show that O'Shea Jackson Jr. (Jackson Barnes) and Toho Kingdom are trying to get made, and repeatedly begging Legendary to pick up.)
     
22:27 Les talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(It's a show O'Shea Jackson Jr. (Jackson Barnes) is trying to get made with Toho Kingdom and repeatedly begging Legendary to pick up.)
     
22:22 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Can somebody give me the context of what is ''Monarch G Team''??)
     
19:23 Ebirahlobster talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(LOL)
     
17:55 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$485,216,510|padding-left=5px}} Dear lord this thing pulls in around 2 million dollars each day.)
     
17:55 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(thumb|330px|left|lol. lmao, even.)
     
16:39 TherealHokmuto talk contribs edited comment #91801 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(G-Font: cool How the hell do you type it)
     
16:38 TherealHokmuto talk contribs edited comment #91801 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(G-Font: cool)
     
16:38 TherealHokmuto talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(G-Font cool)
     
15:48 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Godzilla’s reinstating the Roman Empire lol)
     
15:14 Goatzilla1998 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 MOVIE!! THE SUPLEX WAS CRAZY At first 2014 was my favorite but now I changed my mind, this is Godzilla X Kong the PEAKpire!!)
     
14:29 Shard talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(huh?)
     
14:28 Shard talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I finally saw this in theaters yesterday, and it was AMAZING, easily my favorite MV film now)
     
12:28 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Where’s the old empire? Why is there only a new one?)
     15:26  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 3 changes history −512 [Tarbtano‎; Astounding Beyond Belief‎ (2×)]
     
15:26 (cur | prev) −9 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs (→‎Development)
     
12:49 (cur | prev) −503 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs (→‎Trivia: Most of Asia and all of Australia are omitted from these maps, and a label like "Titan 024" tells you that there are more known Titans now than the KOTM creatures. I think some trivia about the map is warranted, but I'd want a higher-quality version of the map to scrutinize (does the numbering go higher than 24?))
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07:40 (cur | prev) +121 Nelspeedracer talk contribs (→‎Trivia)

21 April 2024

     16:24  (Comments log) [Titanozilla2023‎; TheGiganEnjoyer‎; Showa Fan‎; ShodaiMeesmothLarva‎; MrPenguin‎; Jc‎; JONCED04‎; -=JuneBugStudios=-‎; Keeri'ijra‎ (6×); JohnGojira‎ (7×)]
     
16:24 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Indeed, those sorts of people certainly do lose it in those areas for sure. They are the kind that a need a long break from the internet.)
     
16:21 Titanozilla2023 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I think this is referring to Godzilla becoming an ally of Kong?)
     
15:55 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #91625 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(While I think there is some truth to that, I also don't know why it would stop me from comparing things such as action sequences, effects quality, or character writing. One thing that does tick me off (and I do understand that you're not doing this, I'm just venting) is when people go ballistic solely because someone says "Minus One was better". Yeah, they're trying to accomplish two different things, but that doesn't stop someone from saying one is better than the other. No one's complainin...)
     
15:45 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Again, that's not what you're doing. You're being totally chill. I'm talking about the clinically insane located in other places such as the YouTube comment section.)
     
15:41 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Yeah, that is fair @Keeri'ijira. I was not trying to go ballistic, the top part was more for meme value than anything.)
     
15:20 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Stop comparing these two, it's ridiculous and baseless, it's like comparing Lego Batman and Batman: The Dark Knight!!! They are films with different proposals and this comparison is unfair!!!)
     
15:07 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$444,391,510|padding-left=5px}} Dear lord this thing pulls in around 2 million dollars each day.)
     
15:04 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I have questions.)
     
15:04 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(While I think there is some truth to that, I also don't know why it would stop me from comparing things such as action sequences, effects quality, or character writing. One thing that does tick me off (and I do understand that you're not doing this, I'm just venting) is when people go ballistic solely because someone says "Minus One was better". Yeah, they're trying to accomplish two different things, but that doesn't stop someone from saying one is better than the other. No one's complainin...)
     
14:36 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91623 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(GxK (in a Tighten voice): Stop comparing me to [Minus One]! Obviously one is entitled to their view of a movie, I am saying it gets kind of ridiculous how GxK is compared to Minus One constantly. Of course GxK is not as good as Minus One, but almost no film is (at least in my opinion). And as I see it, both films accomplished what they set out to do.)
     
14:31 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91623 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(GxK (in a Tighten voice): Stop comparing me to [Minus One]! Obviously one is entitled to their view of a movie, I am saying it gets kind of ridiculous how GxK is compared to Minus One constantly. Of course GxK is not as good as Minus One, but almost no film is. And as I see it, both films accomplished what they set out to do.)
     
14:31 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91623 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(GxK (in a Tighten voice): Stop comparing me to [Minus One]! Obviously one is entitled to their view of a movie, I am saying it gets kind of ridiculous how GxK is compared to Minus One constantly. Of course Minus One is not as good as Minus One, but almost no film is. And as I see it, both films accomplished what they set out to do.)
     
14:30 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(GxK: Stop comparing me to Minus One! Obviously one is entitled to their view of a movie, I am saying it gets kind of ridiculous how GxK is compared to Minus One constantly. Of course Minus One is not as good as Minus One, but almost no film is. And as I see it, both films accomplished what they set out to do.)
     
14:19 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I… what?)
     
11:42 ShodaiMeesmothLarva talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(The only part of the movie I managed to watch was the climax and final battle scenes, as me and my family decided to watch ''Abigail'' instead, plus I am still dismayed by the fact that ''Minus One'' is basically unwatchable in my entire country despite being a better film.)
     
04:43 -=JuneBugStudios=- talk contribs posted a new comment on Kenpachiro Satsuma(We have lost, a true legend... Rest In Peace man... Rest In Peace.)
     
03:20 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Oh my Lord! Godzilla has became the very thing he swore to destroy!)
     
02:11 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Legendary Pictures(Hoping for Tacit Ronin and Slattern 🤞)
     
01:04 Showa Fan talk contribs posted a new comment on Legendary Pictures(???)
     
00:39 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Legendary Pictures(ok)
     
00:37 Jc talk contribs posted a new comment on Legendary Pictures(Bro)

20 April 2024

     22:23  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 3 changes history +550 [Kylan B.‎; Titanus Kaiju Fan‎ (2×)]
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22:23 (cur | prev) +503 Kylan B. talk contribs (→‎Trivia: Added Opening credits above japaneses dub section) Tag: Visual edit
     
15:10 (cur | prev) +36 Titanus Kaiju Fan talk contribs
     
14:07 (cur | prev) +11 Titanus Kaiju Fan talk contribs (Now, we can officially call the Great Apes Titans. If it were up to me, "Titan" would refer to any Godzilla-sized creature.)
     19:01  (Comments log) [Titanus Kaiju Fan‎; JONCED04‎; EatenByShark6837isCool‎; VaderForVa‎ (2×); Keeri'ijra‎ (2×); JohnGojira‎ (5×)]
     
19:01 EatenByShark6837isCool talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(https://youtu.be/81FQ8I056Gw?feature=shared)
     
16:48 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91492 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Yeah, KotM seemed to hold a more serious tone, while GvK and GxK pretty much drop any notion of seriousness, focusing more on the battles. G14 certainly focused the most on the impact on humans, but without as much of the apocalyptic feel as KotM)
     
16:45 JohnGojira talk contribs edited comment #91492 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Yeah, KotM seemed to hold a more serious tone, while GvK and GxK pretty much drop any notion of seriousness, focusing more on the battles)
     
16:44 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Yeah, KotM seemed to hold a more serious tone, while GvK and GxK drop any notion of seriousness)
     
13:57 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I think it was. This movie's approach is very lighthearted when it comes to paying attention to the human toll, while KotM treated its events like the apocalypse.)
     
12:48 Titanus Kaiju Fan talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I don't think ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' was supposed to be like that.)
     
06:26 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(From what I can guess, I think it was the Tiber River that Godzilla was traveling through as he left Rome.)
     
06:26 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Okay)
     
04:51 JONCED04 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Like I said, this movie seems to have put more emphasis on fantasy than sci-fi. That’s just my opinion.)
     
04:01 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$442,061,510|padding-left=5px}})
     
02:00 VaderForVa talk contribs posted a new comment on Tomonori Yazaki(Ultraman taro makes me hate humanity more.)
     
01:53 VaderForVa talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Biden solos skar king low dif)
     01:24  Riley Jackson diffhist +57 Space Hunter M talk contribs (→‎Selected filmography)

19 April 2024

     22:20  (Comments log) [Titanozilla2023‎; Shard‎; OaxiKaiju‎; MrPenguin‎; MechaniKongZilla‎; JohnGojira‎; Godrizza draws‎; Kumongus‎ (2×); TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (4×); Keeri'ijra‎ (5×)]
     
22:20 Kumongus talk contribs posted a new comment on Legendary Pictures(I don't care what you all say, this studio brought the Godzilla franchise back)
     
22:20 Kumongus talk contribs edited comment #89533 on Monsterverse(@ThatOneKaijuFan2011 she's an decently well known actress back in the mid 2010's and now, she was Ming from Jumanji: Welcome to The Jungle, Courtney from Angry Birds 2, Scuttle from The Little Mermaid and Zhen from Kung Fu Panda 4 to name a few)
     
20:34 Shard talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Pffft)
     
16:17 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(And Skar King seems more capable lol)
     
14:54 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(dehydrated spongebob: i need it... I NEED IT!)
     
14:53 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(please... g-team... i need)
     
14:51 Titanozilla2023 talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(The Monsterverse species thing means Anguirus could probably reappear without contradicting anything.)
     
14:48 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(I still think it will take time for humans not to be included...)
     
14:46 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Llene Andrews, Chen was just meant to be a reference to Shobijin)
     
14:45 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(I also think it's difficult for example Sanda and Gaira to appear since there are the Great Apes Gigan, it's likely along with Biollante and Anguirus it would be a bit contradictory since maybe KOTM's skeleton is his.)
     
12:21 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Windows key + . key, then go to the Symbols tab, then go to the second-to-last section and boom, there it is.)
     
12:05 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #91173 on Monsterverse(HOL UP. WAIT A MINUTE. SOMETHING IS LOOKING VVVVEEEEERRRRRYYYY RIGHT FOR ONCE I'm still cautious about how many Toho kaiju will appear and the actual release date of the thing, but the fact that this is happening at all is so cool.)
     
12:03 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(HOL UP. WAIT A MINUTE. SOMETHING IS LOOKING VVVVEEEEERRRRRYYYY RIGHT FOR ONCE)
     
11:40 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Maybe Monarch G team??? https://youtube.com/shorts/2bh2V-zwnrQ?si=v-gJbvlOw9ckEOKL)
     
03:33 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #91137 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(KotM just stands in the corner as the most horrific, almost eldritch, irreversible event in modern history that everyone wants to forget and was only captured in satellite images cause everyone on the ground was drowned or crushed... Also poor Hong Kong)
     
03:32 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(KotM just stands in the corner as the most horrific, almost eldritch, irreversible event in modern history that everyone wants to forget and was only captured in satellite images cause everyone on the ground was drowned or crushed...)
     
02:28 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(On the opening credits, you can spot the following sentence: "The iconic images of Kong battling Godzilla have become some of the most memorable moments in modern history")
     
01:52 OaxiKaiju talk contribs posted a new comment on Naoko Kamio(Well, in the end Chibi Godzilla Raids Again did make a female Minilla, LoL.)
     20:18  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 3 changes history +92 [MechaniKongZilla‎ (3×)]
     
20:18 (cur | prev) +1 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Appearances: Referred to be Titans in opening credits)
     
02:14 (cur | prev) 0 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Other monsters: Its name appears on the opening credits)
     
02:08 (cur | prev) +91 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Titans and superspecies)
     20:17  Monsterverse diffhist −10 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Monsters introduced: Referred to be Titans in opening credits)

18 April 2024

     19:21  (Comments log) [Cohozilla‎; Keeri'ijra‎; VaderForVa‎ (2×)]
     
19:21 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Preeety sure Biden's older.)
     
18:52 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$440,262,286|padding-left=5px}})
     
15:27 VaderForVa talk contribs edited comment #90968 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(skar King is older than Joseph biben)
     
15:27 VaderForVa talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(G-font)
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17 April 2024

     23:15  (Comments log) [Tibiofibula‎; TherealHokmuto‎; TheGiganEnjoyer‎; Rodanthegreat100‎; MrPenguin‎; Godrizza draws‎; Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎ (3×); Keeri'ijra‎ (3×)]
     
23:15 Tibiofibula talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Now I want to see John Brown riding Godzilla)
     
20:15 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$438,906,884|padding-left=5px}})
     
20:14 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I made it money colored now. Also, thanks Les for simplifying it, I didn't realize all you needed to type was G-Font lol.)
     
20:06 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|color=green|$437,921,255|padding-left=5px}})
     
19:30 TherealHokmuto talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(How the fuck did you do that??????)
     
18:37 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Ian Ziering(Sharknado is a cinematic masterpiece)
     
16:43 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(If I understood what their saying I would be able to give a much better criticism of it tho.)
     
16:43 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(This is WAY better than Beast Mode)
     
16:31 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Dripzilla: The King of Rizz)
     
14:18 MrPenguin talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|what font?|padding-left=1px}})
     
14:11 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(i'm more concerned with the special font you used)
     
01:05 Rodanthegreat100 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(epic song.)
     22:50  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 6 changes history +51 [MechaniKongZilla‎; Les‎; Kylan B.‎; Astounding Beyond Belief‎ (3×)]
     
22:50 (cur | prev) −26 Les talk contribs (Unclear what this means) Tag: Undo
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22:49 (cur | prev) +26 Kylan B. talk contribs (Added other titans (codenames) to titan and superspecies section) Tag: Visual edit
     
20:35 (cur | prev) +63 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎External links)
     
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14:33 (cur | prev) +64 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs

16 April 2024

     23:58  (Comments log) [MechaniKongZilla‎; TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (2×); Cohozilla‎ (2×); Les‎ (3×); ThatOneKaijuFan2011‎ (4×); Keeri'ijra‎ (8×)]
     
23:58 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire('''AWESOME NEW OFFICIAL SONG''' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0-S59KuZdc)
     
23:43 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(It may not surpass KSI or G14, but I think it has a very good shot of outdoing its predecessor.)
     
19:49 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Godizella ex Konki: The New F*king Empire Strikes back)
     
19:47 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Godziller and Konger are swimming in cash...)
     
19:01 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Where's that picture of Kong clutching a bunch of money? 'Cause this film's making BANK!)
     
18:49 Les talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire({{G-font|$437,921,255|padding-left=5px}})
     
18:48 Les talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:48 Les talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:46 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:45 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:45 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:45 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:44 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(edit summary removed)
     
18:42 Keeri'ijra talk contribs edited comment #90454 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(<div class="g-font" style="font-size: {{{size|2em}}}; color: {{{color|#eee}}}; letter-spacing: {{{kerning|1px}}}; text-shadow: -1px -1px 1px {{{stroke|black}}}, 1px -1px 1px {{{stroke|black}}}, -1px 1px 1px {{{stroke|black}}}, 1px 1px 1px {{{stroke|black}}}; padding-top: {{{padding-top|12px}}}; padding-bottom: {{{padding-bottom|6px}}}; padding-left: {{{padding-left|0px}}}; padding-right: {{{padding-right|0px}}}">$437,921,255</div>)
     
18:41 Keeri'ijra talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(<div class="g-font" style="font-size: {{{size|2em}}} $437,921,255</div>)
     
13:35 Cohozilla talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Too many Ilenes. You could have picked any name, and you pick Ilene to be repeated? Though the same could be said for Shaw... Still, Andrews is miles better. Chen was cool, with her Shobijin reference and all, but Andrews actually did something in both films.)
     
13:25 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(⨝ How did you find this Keeri'ijra?)
     
13:24 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(I hardly remember Chen. All I remember is that she was in KOTM.)
     
13:14 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs edited comment #90328 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Gigantis X Giant Monkey: The New Army)
     
13:13 ThatOneKaijuFan2011 talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Gigantis X A.P.E: The Old Kingdom)
     23:41  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 5 changes history +41 [Titanus Kaiju Fan‎; MrBeastie87‎; MechaniKongZilla‎ (3×)]
     
23:41 (cur | prev) +9 Titanus Kaiju Fan talk contribs ("Causing Kong to smile" sounds weird to me.)
     
20:40 (cur | prev) +32 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Plot)
     
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15 April 2024

     23:28  (Comments log) [Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes‎; Titanozilla2023‎; Sonogoji‎; Obi-X‎; TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (2×); Godrizza draws‎ (2×); JohnGojira‎ (3×)]
     
23:28 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Battle of the Ilenes: Which one is better? Ilene Andrews or Ilene Chen?)
     
23:24 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Monsterverse(Ah sort of like the "live action" Lion King. I suppose that depends on whether or not they film in real settings and animals or it is all green screen.)
     
20:04 JohnGojira talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I can relate there!)
     
18:33 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #90183 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Now Kong is "King" Kong)
     
18:33 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Now Kong is "King Kong")
     
17:02 Obi-X talk contribs posted a new comment on Charles Barkley(He's taller than Heisei Gamera and 84-89 Godzilla LMFAO)
     
14:55 Titanozilla2023 talk contribs edited comment #79424 on Monsterverse(Inspired by a comment chain on the Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire page, I am going to be ranking Monsterverse creatures from the films and certain other media by how chill they are. (Will be added to over time) 1. Sker Buffalo. The chillest creature to ever exist. 2. Spore Mantis. Again, very chill. 3. Doug. He just wants to live life and eat Rock Critters. 4. Parrot Frog. Not aggressive but accidently made Kong sad. 5. Na Kika. Outside of being...)
     
14:19 Sonogoji talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Kong really said "let my people go")
     
12:37 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Yay)
     
12:37 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Plot summary: argumentative gay couple free a plus-size woman from abusive relationship with a slave owner, outcast child becomes moth Jesus.)
     
00:56 Ultraman rides a dragon cuz yes talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I shall finally see this film tomorow.)
     21:59  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire‎‎ 4 changes history +380 [MechaniKongZilla‎; Keeri'ijra‎; Astounding Beyond Belief‎ (2×)]
     
21:59 (cur | prev) +2 Astounding Beyond Belief talk contribs
     
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18:54 (cur | prev) −8 MechaniKongZilla talk contribs (→‎Plot)
     
15:58 (cur | prev) +10 Keeri'ijra talk contribs (→‎Description) Tag: Visual edit
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14 April 2024

     22:29  Riley Jackson diffhist +10 Space Hunter M talk contribs
     20:10  Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire diffhist +75 Les talk contribs
     19:34  (Comments log) [Godrizza draws‎ (3×); TheGiganEnjoyer‎ (6×)]
     
19:34 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Nice to see them beat up a slave owner too)
     
19:34 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(I told you so Who made jokes about Vader loving this movie? ME!)
     
19:32 Godrizza draws talk contribs posted a new comment on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(Just got back from the cinema Godzilla spends the first half of this movie grinding levels to fight the boss)
     
19:15 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89666 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(No... HE'S DEFINITELY BETTER THAN GODZILLA 1998 or Zilla: The Movie.)
     
11:50 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89857 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(And isn't Gabara also one of the worst godzilla characters??)
     
11:49 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89857 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(And isn't Gabara also one of the worst godzilla characters?? Well, nothing against it because him bullying Minilla in MIB is really funny.)
     
11:48 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89857 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(And isn't Gabara also one of the worst godzilla characters??)
     
11:47 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89666 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(No... HE'S DEFINITELY BETTER THAN GODZILLA 1998 or Zilla: The Movie. BUT ALL MONSTERS ATTACK is Absolute Cinema.)
     
11:45 TheGiganEnjoyer talk contribs edited comment #89857 on Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire(And isn't Gabara also one of the worst godzilla characters??)